$10 NLHE 6-max: Turn Min-Check-Raise

$10 NL HE 6-max: Turn Min-Check-Raise

Full Tilt, $0.05/$0.10 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
Hand History Converter by Stoxpoker
MP: $19.66 (196.6 bb)
Hero (CO): $10.86 (108.6 bb)
BTN: $10 (100 bb)
SB: $10 (100 bb)
BB: $12.38 (123.8 bb)
UTG: $13.38 (133.8 bb)
Pre-Flop: Hero is CO with Q Q
2 folds, Hero raises to $0.30, 2 folds, BB calls $0.20
Flop: ($0.65) 2 3 3 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $0.50, BB calls $0.50
Turn: ($1.65) 7 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $1.20, BB raises to $2.40, Hero...

Only have 25 hands or so and he was playing 45/35 or so... seemed somewhat fishy from the limited amount of play, but is this min-check-raise basically telling me I'm beat? Not sure what to do here with limited reads...

You just got beluga'd! We really can't be happy about our hand at this point.

I'm not sure I can find a fold here. The board is kinda drawy, we have position, and this player may consider stuff like A7/99 a hand worthy of a check/min-raise. So I call here and then re-evaluate based on the river card and what villain does.

c9h13no3 said:

You just got beluga'd! We really can't be happy about our hand at this point.

I'm not sure I can find a fold here. The board is kinda drawy, we have position, and this player may consider stuff like A7/99 a hand worthy of a check/min-raise. So I call here and then re-evaluate based on the river card and what villain does.

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These min-raises are no fun, but I've noticed that we almost always have odds to call even if we are behind.

Well if you are behind then you are drawing to two outs and do not have odds or implied odds...12bb to call at 22 to 1 we are nowhere near deep enough, but I'm not convinced the c/minraise is trips+ here.

It could be, but most of the time it's not. I gotta call.

The big blind could really have any hand making that call, he could be on some kind of draw trying to boost his pot. I rule out trips here, and most likely call and just hope for a black face card and see what he does from there.

In this kind of situations, against a fish I fold, I think a A3o is in his range of playable hands, making the three of a kind...

JonasBluffer said:

In this kind of situations, against a fish I fold, I think a A3o is in his range of playable hands, making the three of a kind...

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But we're not just playing against 1 hand in his range, we're playing against his entire range. I don't have P-stove here at work, but if we make his range all made hands (no draws), then I'd expect to see something like this:

Nut Hands:
22
77
A3
K3s

Pairs:
A2, 44-66 (Sometimes these are min-raised by bad players to "see where they are")
A7, any 7 with a flush draw
88-AA (I think slowplayed big pairs are certainly in his range)

Random Bluffs:
AQ, KJ, mostly overcards/whatever that took a card off on the flop

I'm not sure there are many draws in his range, since a baluga is usually strong made hands. So for this hand, I'd poker stove that range, and then see how many bluffs you have to add into his range to make this a call. If you have to add a lot of bluffs, then its a fold.

dunno, i think he probleably hited that 7 and wanted to represent it, just becouse he just called on flop... he could call with Ace hi or a pair, probleably A7... i think thats good position of just flat call on turn, and see what he will be doing on river cardif there will come out like something KJT if he had that pair seven i think he could just check-check. dunno i think best way is call that minraise and see what he will be doing on river card

Hand 0: 70.430% { QcQd }
Hand 1: 29.570% { 22+, Ah7h, A3s, K3s, A3o }

Even with no bluffs and no draws (other than Ah7h) in his range, we really can't fold this. Even if we reduce his range to overpairs, and monsters we still have very good equity over his range.

Hand 0: 67.803% { QcQd }
Hand 1: 32.197% { 77+, 33-22, A3s, K3s, A3o }

Obviously, folding is pretty bad. Raising the turn would be horrid as well, since villain's preflop stats indicate that he's not afraid of aggression, so bluffs are certainly in villain's range. I think the best line is to call and play a river with position.