$10 NLHE 6-max: Trips facing turn raise and river shove

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10NL 6-max zoom on pokerstars. Villain is unknown.

BTN: $14.37
SB: $10.95
Hero (BB): $44.90
UTG: $8.92
MP: $12.95
CO: $10.96

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is BB with A:spade: 7:spade:
UTG raises to $0.25, 2 folds, BTN calls $0.25, SB calls $0.20, Hero calls $0.15

Flop: ($1.00) Q:heart: 4:spade: 7:heart: (4 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, UTG checks, BTN bets $0.60, SB folds, Hero calls $0.60, UTG folds

Turn: ($2.20) 7:club: (2 players)
Hero bets $1.80, BTN raises to $4.50, Hero calls $2.70

River: ($11.20) 6:club: (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $9.02 all in, Hero calls $9.02

What do you think about the way hero played this hand?
 
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I probably play it the same, and wind up paying off 44.
 
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I don't think he ever plays a Q like this and he might play a 7 or possibly a flush draw like this.

Honestly, I think his hand shows extreme strength and you have shown quite a bit of strength yourself. I think we see some boats here as well as some worse 7x, but rarely any bluffs. It MIGHT be possible to get away. Calling can't be horrible though. If it is bad it's not that bad.
 
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This is pretty obviously a full house, fold the river. Drawing to two pair/trips is a pretty bad draw in these family pots.
 
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This is pretty obviously a full house, fold the river. Drawing to two pair/trips is a pretty bad draw in these family pots.

Now that I look back the flop call is pretty bad. Don't think it is that easy of a fold on the river AP though. Villains easily over play trips here and have spaz bluffs. Maybe if we had a read but in a zoom pool against an unknown I don't think we can fold river, but flop should be an easy fold.
 
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I don't think most villains bet 2nd pair on the flop, so it's unlikely another trips. Then his shove on the turn when you flip your hand face up looks super strong. This is 44/Q7s/74s/QQ if you ask me, obviously 44 is most probable.
 
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but flop should be an easy fold.
Second pair, top kicker, overcard, backdoor nut flush draw. Sure that's an easy fold???


Genuine question, I'd peel this flop without thinking twice.
 
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Second pair, top kicker, overcard, backdoor nut flush draw. Sure that's an easy fold???


Genuine question, I'd peel this flop without thinking twice.

It's neither an auto-peel or easy fold for me, I think second pair top kicker out of position and with a flush draw (not my backdoor flush) on the board is going to depend heavily on my opponent.

Personally by the river I think it's apparent they've a full house with QQs or 44s and judging by the early bet sizing it's 44s unless they were massively slow playing QQs for some reason.
 
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Second pair, top kicker, overcard, backdoor nut flush draw. Sure that's an easy fold???

This was my logic too. I actually thought it's more probable that the villain is just betting a FD (since it checked to him) than it is that the villain has a made hand. Then I thought: in the event that the villain does have a made hand, it's probably not AQ or QQ (since he didn't 3bet squeeze preflop) and there are only 4 combos of sets and the rest is just weak Qx hands which I can outdraw if I hit an Ace, a 7 or a backdoor flush. So I thought I should peel at least one street.

On the turn, I actually wasn't sure if I played this correctly. Should I have check-raised instead of donking out? And should I have 3bet the turn once my donk bet got raised?
 
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This was my logic too. I actually thought it's more probable that the villain is just betting a FD (since it checked to him) than it is that the villain has a made hand. Then I thought: in the event that the villain does have a made hand, it's probably not AQ or QQ (since he didn't 3bet squeeze preflop) and there are only 4 combos of sets and the rest is just weak Qx hands which I can outdraw if I hit an Ace, a 7 or a backdoor flush. So I thought I should peel at least one street.

On the turn, I actually wasn't sure if I played this correctly. Should I have check-raised instead of donking out? And should I have 3bet the turn once my donk bet got raised?


I think if you check turn, it will look like you are drawing to villain here. So by checking, I think V bets this turn card, and we could very well c/r, and blow the pot up. And our goofy line will have V making mistakes and calling off light.

Point being, I think checking is better than donking. I feel like V will bet more hands if you check, but he will probably not call with some hands he may bet here OTT if we lead out like this. Like air that he bets the flop with, he will try to bet again (perhaps) if we check.

And by donking, we also allow V to play perfectly against us, if he is weak. He may just fold. Also, you are sort of coming out and saying you have a big hand with this. V may be hip to it.

There is a risk of V checking back I suppose, but in this spot I think we can count on V to bet turn here.
 
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The error was made calling the flop but after that everything was played well not much you could have done on the river but call
 
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