$10 NLHE 6-max: TPTK vs river bet

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$10 NL HE 6-max: TPTK vs river bet

Villian Stats (VPIP/PFR/AF): 20/14/5

HAND #1
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party poker, $0.05/$0.10 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
Hand History Converter by Stoxpoker

Hero (BTN): $10 (100 bb)
SB: $10 (100 bb)
BB: $19.10 (191 bb)
UTG: $10.70 (107 bb)
MP: $28 (280 bb)
CO: $11.55 (115.5 bb)

Pre-Flop: Hero is BTN with As Kd
2 folds, CO calls $0.10, Hero raises to $0.50, SB calls $0.45, BB calls $0.40, CO folds

Flop: ($1.60) 2h 5s Ad (3 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets $0.90, SB calls $0.90, BB folds

Turn: ($3.40) Qc (2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks

River: ($3.40) 2c (2 players)
SB bets $2.50, Hero ???

I guess its two pair not TPTK but anyways lol. Do I have to call this river bet? I put the guy on a weaker ace due to his passive play on the hand as there is no real draw. I checked the turn to get to a cheap showdown. Any ideas?
 
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I think you need to be value betting this on all 3 streets. Especially if you put him on a weaker Ax type hand.

Anyway now that you have shown weakness you should be calling the River bet (or possibly raising? I'm not sure whether you'd make enough money on the times he calls w/ Ax type hands to make up for when he always calls with the hands that beat you).

On the turn I would like to see b/f.
 
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Ya I just realized that I didn't like my turn play at all. I just didn't have much of a read on the player so I wanted to keep the pot smaller. I guess I couldve just bet small, like a 1/3 pot?

If I did make a bet on the turn and villain calls, do I still call a 2/3 pot bet on river from villain as well?
 
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i think its a must call on the river, although like likminuts stated u need to be value betting on all three streets
 
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Yeah as others have said not betting the turn was a bad play.

Because you have shown weakness by checking the turn then a lot of the time he will try to steal on the river with a smaller ace than yours.

Easy call imo.
 
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Gross turn check. That play is going to induce bluffs and makes our river decision less clear. If you'd fired 2 barrels, he called both and led river, it's still gross, but easier to let it go.

After the check, he could be betting a wide range, so I'd call.

There's no value in raising here.
 
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Yeah by not slow down, bet the turn and as played raise the river, you are beating sooo much here and he wont fold any ace...
 
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I put the guy on a weaker ace due to his passive play on the hand as there is no real draw. I checked the turn to get to a cheap showdown. Any ideas?

Who's passive ? Your smallish $0.90 bet into $1.60 shows weakness... You also checked the turn - more weakness and you gave free card.. You are the passive player in this hand.

I don't like bets less than 3/4 of the pot on the flop. You never know where you are at and you can be easily bluffed out on later streets.

I guess he has Ax thinking this is the best hand or he hit two pairs with A5 or trips Deuces because your small flop bet will make people call even with bottom pair expecting to hit trips or two pairs. You even gave him free river ?! Why ? :eek:

This could be a good play only if you expect the villain to bluff and extract more value with your TPTK, however villain with stats 20/14/5 is not the right guy to try this strategy...

I guess you called and he showed a 2 or A5 , right ?
 
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This could be a good play only if you expect the villain to bluff and extract more value with your TPTK, however villain with stats 20/14/5 is not the right guy to try this strategy...

+1, and agree w everyone else you need to call the river as played. Through the turn, it looks like you don't particularly like either the A or the Q.

Doubt he's got a 2 or A5 here and wouldn't be surprised to see less than top pair (KQ, QJ, Ax, 88-JJ), though AQ and maybe 55 seem possible...

Raising the river is out of the question.
 
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The reason I made my bet about half pot there was because there werent any draws that I had to protect against. Looking back though the turn was played bad and it left me with no idea where I was on the river. I ended up calling the river bet, and he showed 55 for the boat.
 
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