$10 NLHE 6-max: Top threeps vs reraise push

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SB: $10.05 (100.5 bb)
BB: $34.09 (340.9 bb)
UTG: $11.70 (117 bb)
MP: $3 (30 bb)
Hero (CO): $12.95 (129.5 bb)
BTN: $10.15 (101.5 bb)

Preflop: Hero is CO with :ad4: :qd4:
2 folds, Hero raises to $0.25, BTN raises to $0.90, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.65

Flop: ($1.95) :as4: :8d4: :ac4: (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN checks

Turn: ($1.95) :4h4: (2 players)
Hero bets $1.10, BTN calls $1.10

River: ($4.15) :10s4: (2 players)
Hero bets $2.07, BTN raises to $8.15 and is all-in, Hero folds?????

I think enter range push A10, 1010, AK. , maybe JJ+. as you would play?
 
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sorry, but what hand do you have? I see only queen of diamonds
 
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Yeah it's a fold.

I don't like the check on the flop though.
Can still get value from PP because it's less likely you have an Ace in the hand, Also think about what would you do if you whiffed this? What hands are you betting on the flop with?

AP i'd rather check/call river... But it's a fold on river though we are underrepped so it could be a whacky bluff.
 
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Don't think we need a donk betting range in this spot

NH Bogdan, tough fold but correct. He would have to play some weak aces like this for us to call and that's doubtful
 
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Yeah it's a fold.

I don't like the check on the flop though.
Can still get value from PP because it's less likely you have an Ace in the hand, Also think about what would you do if you whiffed this? What hands are you betting on the flop with?

AP i'd rather check/call river... But it's a fold on river though we are underrepped so it could be a whacky bluff.

I agree with you about a game on a flop, my immemorial problem of the choice of the line on a flop the check or bet in such situation, only after distribution the right thoughts come
 
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I actually like the check on the flop.

If villain doesn't have an Ace (which is likely at that point), he will def be worried that u just called his 3 bet with one. You've flopped a monster and want him to keep the lead. In any case, u should mix it up with leading out here and check-raising otherwise ur predictable. River is tricky and def depends ur perception of villain, though fold is safe obv.
 
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when I check I naturally expected to show him weakness. here very ambiguous situation actually how all is better to arrive-? :)
 
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That's deffo bad fold and i'll explain why! Preflop his 3bet is IP, his range is TT+ , your check on flop is weak which means he thinks u dont have an Ace, AK isnt in his range, he would bet the flop for sure, he can't fold 2 pair with your turn bet when 4 came on board, river is pretty sick play by him because he deffo thinks he is ahead with JJ, QQ, or KK, the only real hand he could have is 10 10 which is really bad luck for us if he turns 10 10 i think you are ahead 100% before river and 75% to 25% on river, i won't fold hero call for the pot :)
 
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That's deffo bad fold and i'll explain why! Preflop his 3bet is IP, his range is TT+ , your check on flop is weak which means he thinks u dont have an Ace, AK isnt in his range, he would bet the flop for sure, he can't fold 2 pair with your turn bet when 4 came on board, river is pretty sick play by him because he deffo thinks he is ahead with JJ, QQ, or KK, the only real hand he could have is 10 10 which is really bad luck for us if he turns 10 10 i think you are ahead 100% before river and 75% to 25% on river, i won't fold hero call for the pot :)

AK and 1010.
jj+ not do reraise - push on river. :) why? fold equity minimum.
but with 1010 and AK nice value push.
 
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Ok why is everyone saying the flop check is weak? Checking to the aggressor is not weak, especially in a 3 bet pot where villain will have a lot of bluffs such as CO vs BTN
 
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Ok why is everyone saying the flop check is weak? Checking to the aggressor is not weak, especially in a 3 bet pot where villain will have a lot of bluffs such as CO vs BTN

Exactly.
 
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$10 NLHE 6-max: Top threeps vs reraise push

el_magiciann, I'm sorry, but players that play like the analysis you gave are players I want to play against, no offense.
I don't understand checking is weak on the flop. Checking is not always weakness OOP.

If we were the ones 3-betting, then we're leading most of our A's here. We called a 3-bet, and flopped a monster. Yea I guess we can say lead sometimes so we arent exploitable, but I am checking here almost always.

Turn is standard. Check,check flop, lead turn with an A. When he just calls, I think 99-KK for sure is here, as well as A10suited.

River lead pretty standard. How many bluffs does someone have here? Sure we under-repped our hand, but 99 is folding, QQ-KK are calling. He never has to turn those hands into bluffs, if we have an A he thinks we're going to call off and if he doesn't think we have an A ever he just calls. I think TT and A10 is the most logical, because what are we check/leading with? Our pairs check again on the turn as well as 88 sometimes.

Good fold sir.
 
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Ok why is everyone saying the flop check is weak? Checking to the aggressor is not weak, especially in a 3 bet pot where villain will have a lot of bluffs such as CO vs BTN

Because checking is fun? Just taking a guess here.
 
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Ok why is everyone saying the flop check is weak? Checking to the aggressor is not weak, especially in a 3 bet pot where villain will have a lot of bluffs such as CO vs BTN

Because you are missing out on some significant value. I'd say it's more unpremeditated than weak. There is absolutely no reason to check there. I'd bet about 2/3 - 3/4 pot there.
 
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Because you are missing out on some significant value. I'd say it's more unpremeditated than weak. There is absolutely no reason to check there. I'd bet about 2/3 - 3/4 pot there.

Lol
 
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i understand your laugh but i guess its the diff between micros and midstakes.


totally diff mindsets and strategies... just watching the pros get lost and also what works in micros

poker is very diverse :)
 
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Because you are missing out on some significant value. I'd say it's more unpremeditated than weak. There is absolutely no reason to check there. I'd bet about 2/3 - 3/4 pot there.

Lol.
 
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