$10 NLHE 6-max: Top set after a river re-raise

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$10 NL HE 6-max: Top set after a river re-raise

Have only 25 hands on villain, who is 8/8/0. Do I call this river re-raise? The only hand that beats me is AQ, and the only plausible AQ would be AQd.

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Full Tilt, $0.05/$0.10 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 Players
Hand History Converter by Stoxpoker

MP: $12.26 (122.6 bb)
CO: $9.98 (99.8 bb)
BTN: $10 (100 bb)
SB: $14.42 (144.2 bb)
Hero (BB): $10.37 (103.7 bb)

Pre-Flop: Hero is BB with K K
MP raises to $0.40, 3 folds, Hero raises to $1.20, MP calls $0.80

Flop: ($2.45) K 2 3 (2 players)
Hero checks, MP checks

Turn: ($2.45) T (2 players)
Hero bets $1, MP calls $1

River: ($4.45) J (2 players)
Hero bets $2, MP raises to $4.60, Hero ???
 
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The much more important thing to fix in this hand is your turn bet-sizing. I think checking the flop might be OK (it might be hard for him to have much) depending on how loose he is postflop, but on the turn, you really need to bet an amount that has at least SOME chance in allowing you to get stacks in by the river.

On the river, as played, just shove. It's going to be TT, JJ, KJ or AA often enough to make up for the times you run into AQ.
 
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So should I have bet closer to the pot size on the turn? Also, I thought the check on the flop is questionable, as maybe a bet would have been good, but as you said, it's hard for villain to have much.
 
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flat-calling would be best here, its likely enough for him to have A-Q at this spot and a re-raise here would force you to call an all-in bet from him.
 
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I bet the flop most of the time. The problem is the AQd...or, even some random shit hand like 45 that someone wants to get cute with. You have to make the draws pay an amount that stings...but, lets them just barely call.

However, I can see the slow play here..., and i think arguments can be made for it. Anyway, the turn bet sizing is low...$1 into a $2.45 isnt great here. I think $2 minimum.

Here is a thought...anyone chime in, what about considering a totally weird bet size here...just a really odd min bet in order to induce the bluff...??? If you bet out say .30 cents, maybe he comes over the top for say $3 or more??....i dont know, you have to think the villain is the type who will make that play.

Anyway, as played...I think he has two pair/underset/other assorted nonsense way more often than he has AQ, i shove, maybe fist pump a little.
 
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PF - At this level, give some thought to just shoving preflop. You'll get called a surprising amount of the time. Try it, you'll like it.

Flop - Given the PF action, I don't think checking the flop is particularly good. I think it telegraphs your hand much more than if you bet it. But if your opponent is not observant (quite likely), then it's probably close so not much good in worrying over it.

Turn bet does need to be larger. You're laying him 3.5 to 1 with that bet. I'm betting 2/3 - pot sized there.

River, I'm not fist pumping... but a reluctant cringe shove is probably called for in this case.
 
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On the river, as played, just shove. It's going to be TT, JJ, KJ or AA often enough to make up for the times you run into AQ.

Ditto.
Its a shame you bet it like a girl on the turn otherwise we could safely rule gutshots out of his range.
 
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Do you really think he would call a 3bet with AQ being the nit that he is? I think you run into JJ and TT slowplaying more than anything else here. And there is no way you are getting out of this hand imo. I.e. you are shoving I think here.....IF he does have AQ, you can thank yourself for giving him your money by trying to slowplay. If you bet more on the turn, you could pretty much rule out the AQ as well minus the diamond AQ.
 
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I ended up just calling and showed AQd to take it down.

Ditto.
Its a shame you bet it like a girl on the turn otherwise we could safely rule gutshots out of his range.

Even if I would have bet more on the turn, do you think he would have folded the nut flush draw with the gutshot?
 
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I ended up just calling and showed AQd to take it down.



Even if I would have bet more on the turn, do you think he would have folded the nut flush draw with the gutshot?


No. But you would fold out the other 15combos of AQ that don't have flush draws.
 
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