$10 NLHE 6-max: small 3b w/ nut flush OTR, get 4b AI straight flush possible. super weird spot

$10 NLHE 6-max: small 3b w/ nut flush OTR, get 4b AI straight flush possible. super weird spot

122 hands with villain. from what ive seen so far hes respectable, for sure one of the better 10NL players. Hes running at 21/21, 3b vs steal from SB 17% so suited connectors definitely in his range- super weird though that he doesnt barrel flop if hes holding 4d5d and just that theres no action at all til the river. i dunno, what do you guys reckon? its just so got damn polarized....
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poker stars $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 1874916
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MP: $2.54
CO: $11.22
Hero (BTN): $11.34
SB: $15.65
BB: $10.46
UTG: $7.75

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is BTN with J :club: K :diamond:
3 folds, Hero raises to $0.25, SB raises to $0.60, BB calls $0.50, Hero calls $0.35

Flop: ($1.80) A :diamond: 3 :diamond: 9 :heart: (3 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($1.80) 8 :diamond: (3 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero checks

River: ($1.80) 2 :diamond: (3 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets $1.23, SB raises to $2.70, BB folds, Hero raises to $4.17, SB raises to $15.05 all in, Hero says "do u srsly have 45", Hero says "whatev i cant fold", , Hero calls $6.57 all in

i think you should probably just shove instead of the little min 3bet thing, try and get him to call QQ, obv never folding but he could have 45s here yeah, dont mind him checking the flop really with 45s, one of you two others are very likely to have an A and probably arent folding

Yeah not a big fan of the small 3 bet, he has such a polarised range that you may as well raise a decent amount and get good value from a Q or J. Not sure about a shove though, I think I'd fold the queen to a shove but not to a smaller bet.

Other than that I guess he has it because of the min river raise and cos youve posted it but you cant fold obv.

Bet the flop.

he didnt have it, he had QdJs believe it or not. i just thought i was too polarised when i 3b so like every other diamond could snap fold, so i valued him in as much as possible hence the minraise. sososososo weird that he 4b ships 2nd nuts OTR though.

and ye not sure why i didnt bet the flop :\ lol

All his weak diamonds probably call your river bet so when he raises just shove imo, more chance of getting a full stack vs a Qd which will crush the times you do the gay raise and just get called by the Qd

acky100 said:

All his weak diamonds probably call your river bet so when he raises just shove imo, more chance of getting a full stack vs a Qd which will crush the times you do the gay raise and just get called by the Qd

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Im not sure the Q is calling a shove. To say its been checked round twice, hero has no real benefit in bluffing into the small pot. So if the villain is decent as jchoop implied, I think he can make the fold knowing that no other diamond would 3 bet shove him.

Don't think you can ever fold in this spot when starting with 110 BBs or so. The 1 combo SF is just so unlikely especially in a 3-bet pot. I think it'd have to be something like 250+ BBs against a tight player with the Ad on KdQdTd9d board, where a lot of combos of the SF are possible.

I think you need to reassess your view of him as respectable.

I will never fold here.

No I'm never folding, I think I even said that in chat during the hand lmao. But ye like YGM said, he'd been nothing but a good player, I with out a doubt though a shove would fold out anything but the nuts. I mean I 3b the river, obv I think I'm good and surely he has to know that. Why he shoves over the top with a hand that never beats one that 3bs that river I'll never know

If it was for a much greater potential loss of chips or a tournament, I may consider folding. But in your situation, even though I am thinking he could very well have the straight flush, he still has to have 2 cards to do so as opposed to one. Had there been 4 to a straight flush on the board, easy fold. In your spot, snap call.

4thandinches said:

If it was for a much greater potential loss of chips or a tournament, I may consider folding. But in your situation, even though I am thinking he could very well have the straight flush, he still has to have 2 cards to do so as opposed to one. Had there been 4 to a straight flush on the board, easy fold. In your spot, snap call.

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Lol... It's not a snap, he 4bs all in on the river after literally no post flop action. What hands does a legit opponent, playing against me (who he surely sees as legit also whether hes paying attention or just looking at stats) do this with? The nut flush you'd imagine, cept I have it. The only one left is the straight flush, or some fair retarded bluff- in his case I guess it was a Vbet and he was infact not a legit player at all.

You never have to fold here, but not even considering your beat here when the river action implies villains range is 99.99% the nuts, is pretty lolbad

And FYI, folding this is a million times more retarded in a tournament than a cash game.

Villain not betting a a straight flush draw for two streets is far too unfeasible for me to fold.

Bet flop both villain have had the chance to bet their good aces. As played bet turn. I'm fine with the river sizing, seems like you;d have a hard time getting a call from worse. Villains river line is bizarre.

Deco said:

I'm fine with the river sizing, seems like you;d have a hard time getting a call from worse. Villains river line is bizarre.

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lol right