Originally Posted by naruto_miu
I don't know about the rest of you, I personally liked the flat IP with 89s, now on flop you have a gutter (10 ball), and they bet once again, I don't really mind the flat there either...
The turn is where you and I play differently on (You chose to shove), while I would've like a checked...
River they bet you fold simple as that, while that may seem weak, It still saves you a ton, and when you do get there, they Check/Bet and you shove
No offense, but none of that is okay ^ . Flatting a 4b w/89s HU IP is bad. Were crushed by BB's entire range and have to hit a miracle to win. The play is so -ev, it's really not even worth breaking down the ranges.
-Calling on the flop is also bad. We have 4 outs to a straight and we've put in 50 bbs so far. I can't begin to even explain how -ev this seriously is.
Originally Posted by LD1977
What about being dominated with those hands? (Ax, Kx, Qx)
Well, you might be at times...but the your not 3b light so that you can outflop them, more that you can get them to A. fold their original raise B. Fold on flops and we collect the dead $.
The whole plan of 3b light w/Ax's is that we block the chances of villain having an A. Also, Ax's plays very well postflop, bc we either have top pair or a big draw or air (most of the time). The problem lots of micro's guys run into 3b 89s light is when villain flats and a flop comes anything other then a nuclear draw for us. Something like Q92, 943, 668 etc. where we make a pair and have trouble folding when villain continues with us.
Overall: I think there's too much equity w/sc's to be 3b light in this spot. I understand what yoshi is saying too, and he's right. We do like playing sc's against a tight range UTG, since we will be getting paid enough, but I still think having multi-way action with sc's is more important then playing against a strong range.