re: Poker & $10 NLHE 6-max: Should I have C-bet with AKs?
Originally Posted by IPlay
Anyway, stop derailing threads with personal attacks at me and stick to the topics.
1) Disagreeing with you is not a personal attack.
2) This is a personal attack: You suck at posting on forums and taking criticism. You get emo, write long winded responses. Try thinking instead.
3) I made the 1% argument to point out that if their range is stronger, you should be less inclined to bluff.
4) Let's assume JJ isn't folding "Betting, folds out 88, 99, 77, AK and MAYBE some JJ hands with no hearts."
77-99: 18 combinations
AQ, KQ, AK with no flush draw: 27 combos
Folding Combos: 45
Not a successful C-bet Range (they call, raise, and don't fold)
AQ, KQ, AK with a flush/flush draw: 21
TT: 2 combos
JJ-AA 24 combos
So we'd expect them to fold ~48% of the time if they have a loose 3-bet calling range out of position. Our c-bet would show a very small profit. But most people don't call 3-bets this loose in this spot. Villain raised UTG, we 3-bet. It's not a steal situation, Villain is full stacked. He's likely calling tighter.
If their range is stronger (JJ+, AQ+), then you will get less folds, and it's quite dramatic. The JJ+/AQ+ range has only 18 combos that fold, 38 that don't.
Finally, by betting we're also losing the opportunity to check back and hit an A or K (4 outs) when we get raised. This is pretty non-trivial because those 4 outs probably earn more than the tiny amount a c-bet would give us.
So many players just auto-pop the c-bet button, but it's just too easy to play against and often not the right choice.