$10 NLHE 6-max: Set in 3 way pot OTT R/C/ reraise

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At the time of this hand I had about half as many hand on villain. His cbet as PFR was 100% so I was counting on his cbet.

QT is in his range here, as is AK, AJ , and he would probably call pre with 33 in a 3 way pot, especially effective 145BB.

Is anyone folding here?

poker stars $10.00 No Limit Hold'em - 5 players - View hand 1841760
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CO: $12.14 - VPIP: 20, PFR: 17, 3B: 5, AF: 3.2, hands: 332
BTN: $14.56 - VPIP: 30, PFR: 13, 3B: 1, AF: 2.6, Hands: 204
Hero (SB): $20.07 - VPIP: 19, PFR: 13, 3B: 4, AF: 2.2, Hands: 353617
BB: $9.37 - VPIP: 43, PFR: 21, 3B: 8, AF: 2.0, Hands: 28
UTG: $9.96 - VPIP: 11, PFR: 9, 3B: 2, AF: 3.7, Hands: 482

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is SB with J :spade: J :heart:
2 folds, BTN raises to $0.30, Hero raises to $0.80, BB calls $0.70, BTN calls $0.50

Flop: ($2.40) J :club: 3 :heart: K :heart: (3 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, BTN checks

Turn: ($2.40) A :spade: (3 players)
Hero bets $1.20, BB calls $1.20, BTN raises to $3.90, Hero??
 
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I dont think im folding but it's hard to put him on things we want to put him on like AK, AJ, KJ. I don't like the way you played it though. Firstly, why is the 3bet so small? Should probably be atleast $1.20 here considering you're OOP and deep, with 100bb's standard would be atleast $1. Then i don't like the check, you say you know he c-bets a lot, but he doesn't have the opportunity to c-bet once you 3bet and he calls, the chance to c-bet is on you, multiway with 2nd set and a good board to connect with their calling ranges, lets just c-bet and shovel money in to try and get all in :)
 
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Ya raise bigger and bet bet bet. If he has QT here its a cooler.
 
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I dont think im folding but it's hard to put him on things we want to put him on like AK, AJ, KJ. I don't like the way you played it though. Firstly, why is the 3bet so small? Should probably be atleast $1.20 here considering you're OOP and deep, with 100bb's standard would be atleast $1. Then i don't like the check, you say you know he c-bets a lot, but he doesn't have the opportunity to c-bet once you 3bet and he calls, the chance to c-bet is on you, multiway with 2nd set and a good board to connect with their calling ranges, lets just c-bet and shovel money in to try and get all in :)

This is what I'd say as well, but as played call. You have odds to fill up and stack him.

Lesson number 1 at PZ in micro stakes - don't slowplay. Just bet your hands for value because you'll get so many bad calls, and not enough aggressive action to warrant slow playing.
 
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3b should definitely be to $1. for 10NL all my 3bs were $1 OOP and $0.9 IP (just to make it a big easier to get calls) so go to 10BB here pre everyday imo.

its a pretty horrid spot 3 handed with a guy still to act if you call. imo flat turn, so you let the other guy still to act able to come along if he likes.

river sucks unless you fill obv. i think just c/c unless you check, BB shoves Bu calls obv- you cant know hes not retarded and doing this w/ 2p because youve underrepped your hand so much by not Cbetting the flop, so just close your eyes and hope i think.

as played, hating the flop check. should be Cbetting there 100% of the time.
 
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3 bet to 90c or $1, then have to fire otf.

As played Q10 is fairly unlikely and he is easily doing this with two pair so for me get them chippies in!! Just a cooler if he has the straight. Not a big fan of a call ott.
 
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I don't get why he can't have AK or Ahxh that he thinks is the nuts. I agree that the sizing is scary and not thrilled to get it in but I'd call and call most rivers that don't bring 4 to a straight.
 
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3bet to like 1.20 please. Also you need to cbet this board, youre burning money here if you don't come on.
 
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3 bet to 90c or $1, then have to fire otf.

As played Q10 is fairly unlikely and he is easily doing this with two pair so for me get them chippies in!! Just a cooler if he has the straight. Not a big fan of a call ott.

how is QT unlikely? 3 handed pot vs micronoobs, QT is quite a likely hand for one to be holding.

having said that, vil is aggressive, so its kinda weird that he wouldnt bet an OESD OTF when both other players check to him, but then again, hes a micro noob, so his plays dont have to make sense. Its a very good argument for him having 2p and thinking its nuts, but stilli think flats good because a ship might make him reconsider. still calling a shove on the river after flatting turn too..
 
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how is QT unlikely? 3 handed pot vs micronoobs, QT is quite a likely hand for one to be holding.

having said that, vil is aggressive, so its kinda weird that he wouldnt bet an OESD OTF when both other players check to him, but then again, hes a micro noob, so his plays dont have to make sense. Its a very good argument for him having 2p and thinking its nuts, but stilli think flats good because a ship might make him reconsider. still calling a shove on the river after flatting turn too..

I guess a calls not terrible, I just like to make him pay if hes drawing for anything.

Also if hes bad enough to be playing Q10 then theres a solid argument hes probaby calling all in with 2 pair.
 
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Don't think he's drawing when he sticks in a raise like that- except mayb drawing for full, but that's pretty obvious when it peels
 
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as said by others, raise bigger especially oop, cbet flop because it is a draw heavy board, as played stack off on turn. if he has the one hand that beats you so be it, AA or KK also beats you but I doubt he ha any of the two.
 
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Well, I shoved.... Thinking, AK feels good calling, Ax FD feels good calling, only QT dominates me and he should have enough other hands in his range that I can shove and have enough equity over all.

Thats what I thought as I shoved. My bet process should have been different, thanks for the comments. Points all taken.

He had QT hh, so he didnt fold.....
 
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Well, I shoved.... Thinking, AK feels good calling, Ax FD feels good calling, only QT dominates me and he should have enough other hands in his range that I can shove and have enough equity over all.

Thats what I thought as I shoved. My bet process should have been different, thanks for the comments. Points all taken.

He had QT hh, so he didnt fold.....

Youd be doing well to get a fold there.lol

How you didnt c-bet here on a flop like that, in a 3 way pot, il never know!
Make it more pre, and close to pot the flop. Dont be afraid of value, its your friend!
 
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