$10 NLHE 6-max: Resteal wiht AK from the BB... Button 4bets 40% of his stack.

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UTG: $8.77
CO: $7.77
BTN: $10.00 This guy is a 16/12 with a steal of 24 and has 4bet 2/15 times. I have around 650 hands on him.
SB: $10.00
Hero (BB): $10.85

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is BB with A K
2 folds, BTN raises to $0.30, 1 fold, Hero raises to $1.20, BTN raises to $3

Hero's move...

It has to be shove or fold here for me. What would you do and why?

Is the question, how quick can i press all in?

Deceitful_Frank said:

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UTG: $8.77
CO: $7.77
BTN: $10.00
SB: $10.00
Hero (BB): $10.85

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is BB with A

K

2 folds, BTN raises to $0.30, 1 fold, Hero raises to $1.20, BTN raises to $3, 1 fold

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Ok maybe this is we were different in your other thread this is not a resteal.This is a value 3bet.No Doubt it's a snigy snap call.
Edit the coolest SHIP IT!!!! pic i have ever seen.

JOEBOB69 said:

Ok maybe this is we were different in your other thread this is not a resteal.This is a value 3bet.No Doubt it's a snigy snap call.

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I failed

WVHillbilly said:

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Couldn't have said it better

JOEBOB69 said:

Ok maybe this is we were different in your other thread this is not a resteal.This is a value 3bet.No Doubt it's a snigy snap call.
Edit the coolest SHIP IT!!!! pic i have ever seen.

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What????

You would CALL in this spot OOP?

Either this is even more idiotic than my fold or I need to give up poker!

Meant shove WV.I've been known to say something an mean something else """""maybe only one time before Saturday night 11:46pm Oct 5 1989.
Also check out Franks post and see if i am lost are is it him please.

JOEBOB69 said:

Meant shove WV.I've been known to say something an mean something else """""maybe only one time before Saturday night 11:46pm Oct 5 1989.
Also check out Franks post and see if i am lost are is it him please.

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Ok just making sure. I'll take a look at it.

WVHillbilly said:

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I dont get it!

I can see how calling an all-in shove from the button is obviosly correct but to 5-bet with zero fold equity?

I can only assume this has something to do with his 4-bet frequency?

Simple. It's BTN v Blind. If you can get AK AIPF in this situation I guarantee you you'll make money. You like money right?

4-bet of 13% ands steal of 24. This is a no-brainer shove at all times

Everyone is saying shove and I agree it's almost always a shove in this spot.

First, this is BTN vs. Blind so nobody can ever have a hand....you have a hand so we ship. AK is just such a strong hand because you have blockers for both AA and KK. So instead of there being 6 combos of each there are only 3 combos of each. This makes a BIG difference.

Even against QQ+ we have like 32% equity which isn't terrible. If we widen is calling range to TT+, AQ, AK we have 50%. Also he is going to have other bluffs andd random hands he is going to fold so ya basically SHIP IT!

Villain can be 4 betting wide and IMO you have more FE than you think. Plus you have a great hand and this is btn vs blind. Easy shove

Ship the nickels imo. Dont forget to fistpump it!

how is this even a thread?

we have the stone-cold nuts 100 bbs deep getting 4-bet by a stealing monkey.

Shoving is going to be +EV provided he will fold something, anything really but he has to fold something.

Now people are saying that because this is a BTN vs Blind situation he is stealing a lot.

He steals 24%.. in steal terms that isnt a spazz monkey its fairly connservative in steal terms.. he steals sure, but he is really just opening any 2 playable cards.

That says to me (along with his 16/12) stats that his 4 bet range is going to be a pure value range. I would not expect to see much in the way of bluffs from this guy. Or to put it another way, why does he feel so great about 4bet bluffing yet not feel great about "bluffing" more in unopened pots. His steal perrcentage could be a lot wider if he liked to bluff a lot.

The idea that his 4 bet % is 13% is unfounded. its 2 instances out of a possible 15.. its too small a sample to infer much other than he has 4betted before and he dosent do it much. Maybe he bluffs, maybe he dosent but you cant really say which from that stat over 15 hands.

Is his range going to include any hands he can fold? sure.. He might fold TT or JJ. He might even have AQ in his range (and we dominate that).

So all in all its +EV to shove.

Calling is always -ev because we are playing fit or fold postflop with an SPR so low that we have zero Fold Equity.. in fact the only time we might have som FE is when we hit because the A or K would also act as a scare card to lesser hands.

So yes go ahead and shove but this guy is not a 4 bet happy spazzy stealing monkey. He is stealing but his steal stat is the lower end of steal stats which suggests his 4 bet range is purely for value so when in doubt assume JJ+ AK perhaps ass AQ and TT to that.

stu,
I am pretty sure that the 6-max games on the biggest sites, including micros, features a ton of 3-betting light from the blinds. If this action were UTG vs. BB I'm going to say a fold is correct but it's just the nature of the positions here that we must pretty much stack off always.

It really isn't all that simple "ship it" stuff. I love the picture though.

It comes down to how tight he is, as Stu said he has to have some AQ or some JJ he'll fold there, otherwise your fold was correct.

If he only 4-bets QQ+/AK (or even TT+/AK for that matter) and always calls them you need to fold. You need almost 44% equity if he never folds and you just don't have it with AK. Up to you to determine how tight his 4-bet range is, at 5nl I think they can be pretty tight.

On the other hand, if you're the one that's 4-betting always call a shove because you're getting better pot odds now. Just for future reference.