$10 NLHE 6-max: QQ are we ever hero calling?

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PokerStars - $0.10 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (BTN): $10.00
SB: $10.14 (VPIP: 21.43, PFR: 21.43, 3Bet Preflop: 5.56, hands: 58)
BB: $11.13 (VPIP: 64.29, PFR: 35.71, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 17)
UTG: $10.67 (VPIP: 25.29, PFR: 16.09, 3Bet Preflop: 3.45, Hands: 88)
MP: $12.11 (VPIP: 30.00, PFR: 16.67, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 32)
CO: $10.04 (VPIP: 20.31, PFR: 16.58, 3Bet Preflop: 5.54, Hands: 1,865)

SB posts SB $0.05, BB posts BB $0.10

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.15) Hero has Q:diamond: Q:club:

UTG raises to $0.25, MP calls $0.25, fold, Hero raises to $1.15, fold, fold, UTG calls $0.90, fold

Flop: ($2.70, 2 players) A:club: 9:spade: 5:club:
UTG checks, Hero bets $1.41, UTG calls $1.41

Turn: ($5.52, 2 players) 2:spade:
UTG checks, Hero checks

River: ($5.52, 2 players) 7:heart:
UTG bets $8.11 and is all-in, fold

UTG wins $5.27
 
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No not calling this one personally. Looks like a value shove and even AK can be fairly confident here as it's unlikely you are 3betting less than TT against UTG. No straights or flushes to worry about. AA probably 4bets so this looks like AK nearly always.
I would have certainly checked this flop against the strong UTG range which has plenty of aces and his stats look decent.
Better calls or raises and worse other than JJ folds.
As checking opens his bluffing range I would check call the turn and see what he does on the river. If he fires the river you are probably beat It's difficult to bluff here against your range when you have called the turn as the river card changes nothing.
 
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Hello board is sick hits him R/c range 3-bet OOP Ax .PP, suited broadways

I like play x/behind x/call and decide river , I am not obliged to bet here

I think you played valuetown
 
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Are you ever? Of course... but you need some kind of info/read. Outside of that I think you can easily fold here knowing most players won't over bet bluff shove on the river like this to get you off KK-JJ hands on the river. And because it's a 3-bet pot w/ Ac on board, it reduces his combo possibilities of draws as well. So it's most likely for value, and not as busted draw.
 
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Ace, what 's your 2 barrel %.

not saying you should have here, but i just wondering
 
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or turn cbet% in general i mean
 
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On the flop, he check calls meaning he has something.

At river, he is somehow not afraid of the A.

Overall, I would fold because of the indications above.
 
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Always hurts when the ace comes and you cbet gets called. I think you gotta fold here almost always. The bet sizing on the river is a bit off. Since we pretty much said we are done with the hand by checking the turn, you would expect more of a value bet here. However, I think this is happening a LOT more often at micro stakes now. I do see the nuts get paid off once in a while by a weak hand who thinks it is a bluff. So without any compelling evidence, I'm folding here.
Good Luck
 
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or turn cbet% in general i mean


68% (39% success rate) 52% calling turn cbets.

58% fold to flop cbets. 35% fold to turn cbets

2.39 pos awareness. 26% steal. fold to steal 82% 2.8total af, total afq 51.6
 
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Always hurts when the ace comes and you cbet gets called. I think you gotta fold here almost always. The bet sizing on the river is a bit off. Since we pretty much said we are done with the hand by checking the turn, you would expect more of a value bet here. However, I think this is happening a LOT more often at micro stakes now. I do see the nuts get paid off once in a while by a weak hand who thinks it is a bluff. So without any compelling evidence, I'm folding here.
Good Luck


Agreed though I havnt seen it happen as much lately, but a couple months ago it was very common indeed to shove or bet large with nuts.

888 I saw this happen like all the time. stars u see more value bets or even underbets to lure you into the pot to think their weak.
 
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no for me on tĥis one, and i don't think i cbet
 
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Never hero calling, after your 4x 3bet and before MP speak he call that A is obviously his hand, I would just check give up flop, because if in the best possibility he can have JJ and bluffed you on that river because an ace would keep firing
 
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Never hero calling, after your 4x 3bet and before MP speak he call that A is obviously his hand, I would just check give up flop, because if in the best possibility he can have JJ and bluffed you on that river because an ace would keep firing

So you think it's a possible bluff?

Ace should be trying to get more value?
 
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I'm basically never betting the flop. I'd likely call a turn bet if we check back the flop and fold if he bet a 2nd time on the river. As played, without significant knowledge that he only overbets as a bluff, you have to fold.
 
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