$10 NLHE 6-max: QQ agressive

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Was this the correct way to play the hand? Back to basics for me. Villain is basically unknown.

PokerStars - $0.10 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players

Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 112.3 BB (VPIP: 10.34, PFR: 6.90, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, hands: 30)
SB: 112.6 BB (VPIP: 22.73, PFR: 18.18, 3Bet Preflop: 14.29, Hands: 25)
Hero (BB): 143.1 BB
UTG: 123.3 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 5)
MP: 141 BB (VPIP: 28.57, PFR: 14.29, 3Bet Preflop: 25.00, Hands: 7)
CO: 128.1 BB (VPIP: 11.11, PFR: 11.11, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 10)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has Q Q

UTG raises to 2 BB, fold, CO raises to 9 BB, fold, fold, Hero raises to 22.9 BB, fold, CO calls 13.9 BB

Flop: (48.3 BB, 2 players) 3 9 5
Hero bets 22.5 BB, CO raises to 45 BB (60BB behind), Hero raises to 120.2 BB and is all-in,
 
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My question in more detail, is: "Was this standard way of playing QQ out of position, ABC so to say?"
 
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Wou, you so aggressive play, how it finished the hand??
 
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Wou, you so aggressive play, how it finished the hand??

Yes aggressive, lol, for me at least. I think I'm too soft, I have lost my mojo somewhere, so I try to find the correct level of aggression again. Do you think this was a bit too much?
 
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Too aggressive i wouldnt do this against this opponent.

Think about the mistakes your villain will make. I doubt with his stats he will do the medium pp mistake.

And he will just fold out when beat.

Main rule is if hes the type to play draws aggro then shoving is giving 2 cards which is what he wants to get his equity.

But yeh doubt hes that type min raise seems hard to call
 
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Eeh did I get it right @aces, you would fold here to 2x raise?

I doubt he would 2x raise with draw usually, also usually he has no AA,KK. So his most likely hands are TT,JJ, followed by AA,KK, AcKc, 99 and stupid random AK-bluff. Yes?
 
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But u forget hes an unknown so most likely he wont be getting too out of hand

Kk also can play this pre


Post flop that raise just looks like he wants stacks in

I think ur sizing pre isnt great should be x4 since we oop
 
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Wrong sizing can make things awkward
 
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Eeh did I get it right @aces, you would fold here to 2x raise?

I doubt he would 2x raise with draw usually, also usually he has no AA,KK. So his most likely hands are TT,JJ, followed by AA,KK, AcKc, 99 and stupid random AK-bluff. Yes?

Man this is a tough spot. I get why you went for it. Sometimes if he has it, he has it, and you just got unlucky. But he did reraise twice. pre and postflop.

I think on the flop I would have just called him instead of reraising him again.

What I don't get is why TT or JJ is more likely than AA or KK, since he plays so agressively. Could you explain why you think that?
I would say there's a smaller chance he's got 99 because you wouldn't bet so high preflop with it.
We can also assume he's a tight aggressive player since he's got 11.11 VPIP and PFR (although that's probably 1/9 hands, so lots of variance here).

Anyway. How did the hand end? I'm curious!
 
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Wrong sizing can make things awkward

Hmm yeah I think my sizing was wrong and too small oop. My raise for him should look like a real monster though, regardless of the price.

What I don't get is why TT or JJ is more likely than AA or KK, since he plays so agressively. Could you explain why you think that?
I would say there's a smaller chance he's got 99 because you wouldn't bet so high preflop with it.
We can also assume he's a tight aggressive player since he's got 11.11 VPIP and PFR (although that's probably 1/9 hands, so lots of variance here).

Anyway. How did the hand end? I'm curious!

Many times he gots AA and KK in pre, so less them in the post flop games compared to TT,JJ. 3bet sizes are about same in this level, many 3bet 9bb vs 2bb and 3bb opens, and UTG opening 2bb is usually a fish tag so 3bet ranges are wider than normally against UTG. Yeah only thing we can say about those stats is that he is not a passive fish. The hand was boring, he just folded. I think he might have folded KK =)
 
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We think it can look like a monster but most guys just playing their hand and dont care what you have.

They will fall in love with their 2 cards or their plays ... its our job to charge for the love :) it doesnt come free
 
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Would you have called it off preflop if he 5 bet shoved? If not then I'd just flat the 3bet.
The fact that he raises an UTG opener suggests strength and when he flats a 4 bet I'd range a thinking reg to AA KK AK QQ and JJ. The problem is we don't know yet what sort of player we are dealing with, this is the penalty you have to pay for playing fast poker.
His flop min raise is quite scary, people normally play pretty straightforward in 3/4bet pots so I'd assume I'm probably beat by AA and to a lesser extent KK here quite a bit but I'm not releasing QQ here in zoom against an unknown they can still turn up with all sorts of crap hands like A9s, and over played TT JJ.
 
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