$10 NLHE 6-max: QQ 4bet on a bad turn

is anyone shoving on turn?


IPoker Network $10.00 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 2235465
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BB: $12.47 - VPIP: 25, PFR: 22, 3B: 0, AF: 2.0, hands: 59
UTG: $5.56 - VPIP: 47, PFR: 23, 3B: 11, AF: 1.6, Hands: 92
Hero (MP): $10.11 - VPIP: 21, PFR: 18, 3B: 5, AF: 9.9, Hands: 832
CO: $8.97 - VPIP: 50, PFR: 29, 3B: 40, AF: 1.8, Hands: 14
BTN: $9.71 - VPIP: 13, PFR: 10, 3B: 0, AF: 0.0, Hands: 39
SB: $26.11 - VPIP: 25, PFR: 22, 3B: 0, AF: 2.0, Hands: 59

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is MP with Q Q
UTG calls $0.10, Hero raises to $0.50, CO raises to $0.90, 4 folds, Hero raises to $2.80, CO calls $1.90

Flop: ($5.85) 9 5 6 (2 players)
Hero bets $3.00, CO calls $3

Turn: ($11.85) J (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $0.40, Hero calls $0.40

River: ($12.65) 5 (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $1.70, Hero folds

Check turn. Call river.

Shove flop.
As played call both turn and river as you need to be good like 7% of the time by the river.

Deco said:

Shove flop.
As played call both turn and river as you need to be good like 7% of the time by the river.

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Never thought of this, shoving flop looks to be best actually.

so do u think his calling range on flop when we shove and when we just bet is the same?

igySK said:

so do u think his calling range on flop when we shove and when we just bet is the same?

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Well, he might not call with quite as many hands, but so many bad turn cards that can come - half the deck that we have to check.

He's calling $6.17 in to a $5.85 pot I doubt we'd lose any 9x or anything.
This isn't a spot where we are so far ahead we can happily half pot it a mere Ah or Kh has 45% equity vs us, having villain fold here is far from a bad thing, it makes us more money than having him call with 45% equity.

If he has an overpair ,he doesnt have a flush. Just hope his overpair is smaller than yours and shove flop.

Your easily getting called here with 1big heart. .Looks like your ahead in the hand due to his preflop flatting to you your 4bet. (a.k.a i doubt he has kings or aces.)

After the flop it's shutdown time, your OOP it's just burning chips. You don't know if he's a tight or loose player or someone who will call huge draws. Newayz it's nasty shutdown!

You'll get better spots to take his money, and 14 hands with 50vpip doesn't mean too much at this stage.

Just make sure you do the same pot size bet when you are sitting with a A-high flush and get paid

Cant delete this post on my phone.

vinylspiros said:

If he has an overpair ,he doesnt have a flush.

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He can have a FD with monster equity.

Still, he's beating you pretty rarely and he has a bunch of nutty draws that have to call a shove. So, shove flop prob is best.

shoving sounds good, thanks guys

1.70$ to a pot of 12$ its a snap call what ever you think about the hand it is so little even for infos so u know who you r facing, it is also good for your image u go with big hands, u r willing to call and not get bluffed.