$10 NLHE 6-max: QQ 4 bet oop

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PokerStars - $0.10 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 3 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: $25.00
Hero (SB): $25.30
BB: $10.19

Hero posts SB $0.05, BB posts BB $0.10, BTN posts ante $0.02, Hero posts ante $0.02, BB posts ante $0.02

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.21) Hero has Q:club: Q:spade:

BTN raises to $0.30, Hero raises to $1.00, fold, BTN raises to $3.16, Hero raises to $7.10, BTN calls $3.94

Flop: ($14.36, 2 players) 9:heart: 6:club: 8:diamond:
Hero bets $8.20, BTN calls $8.20

Turn: ($30.76, 2 players) 7:heart:
Hero checks, BTN bets $9.68 and is all-in,

No stats on villain as HUD was down :(
 
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Nasty spot. We are super deep with QQ in a 5 bet pot OOP against unknown player... I'm guessing it's a fold on the turn.
 
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nice spot.

we're pretty deep so flatting the 4bet might be better? unless you think he stacks 250bbs with worse than QQ.

bet flop shove turn seems standard since we can't really c/f turns and he shouldn't have straights often enough?
 
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nice spot.

we're pretty deep so flatting the 4bet might be better? unless you think he stacks 250bbs with worse than QQ.

bet flop shove turn seems standard since we can't really c/f turns and he shouldn't have straights often enough?

Would could be his flatting range to a 5bet ? What would a reg flat here with?(i'm obviously only assuming he could be a reg, he could be a total fish, who knows)
 
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Shove the turn next time and defo call off 100% OTT
 
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whats a reg flat with thats beats us here? AA 6bets, 10nl regs aren't good enough to think OP has a light 5bet range s is assuming AA/KK look to stack pre.

just jam the turn yourself, any reads OP?
 
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Shove the turn next time and defo call off 100% OTT

Yeah I was ready to shove and then thought am I just spewing and not giving him a chance to ship AK if he floated with it.

What do you think of pre? I really didnt like flatting the 4 bet oop but maybe it would be better.
 
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Ye pre is tough. But when we are 250BB's deep i think its ok to call the 4b OOP, its horrible but probably the better option, when you 5b/6b or get a spot like this you hate your life more than you would if you have to x/f the turn after x/c'ing the flop in a 4b pot
 
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Mmmmm sick spot, the one ****ing time my HUD isnt working. My thinking was I could fold to a 6 bet which KK+ would probably do, but looking back that was obviously the wrong way to think it through. Yeah I like flatting the 4 bet more, but it still makes it a tough hand post. Should have got up to make a sandwich and let it time out :D
 
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Ye probably easier, i think its a case of call any flop that isnt like A or K high then maybe turn dependant on stacks and he should be shutting down river without the nuts (AA/KK) :)
 
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whats a reg flat with thats beats us here? AA 6bets, 10nl regs aren't good enough to think OP has a light 5bet range s is assuming AA/KK look to stack pre.

just jam the turn yourself, any reads OP?

Do you think regs would flat 5bets 250bb deep with AK,JTs,T9s,87s,88,99,TT, JJ? Or all these pairs are out of the question?
 
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By the river I'll be committed anyway I reckon. Just a case of always going bust here if he has KK+?

And no reads, I had literally just sat down.
 
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Do you think regs would flat 5bets 250bb deep with AK,JTs,T9s,87s,88,99,TT, JJ? Or all these pairs are out of the question?

don't think he really 4bet calls these, its like AK/JJ imo

and the AA/KK super rarely, I just think OP wants to shut down because of the board, c/cing to let AK spew is pretty good.

honestly, its a sick spot.. I don't ****ing know what to do.
 
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don't think he really 4bet calls these, its like AK/JJ imo

and the AA/KK super rarely, I just think OP wants to shut down because of the board, c/cing to let AK spew is pretty good.

honestly, its a sick spot.. I don't ****ing know what to do.

Yeah ano, wheres WV to come in with one line and tell us how to play it?
 
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