$10 NLHE 6-max: QJs The trapper traps himself!

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PokerStars - $0.10 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: $10.32 (VPIP: 26.09, PFR: 15.94, 3Bet Preflop: 10.00, hands: 73)
SB: $28.12 (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 28.57, 3Bet Preflop: 12.50, Hands: 22)
Hero (BB): $11.18
UTG: $10.72 (VPIP: 50.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 2)
MP: $17.76 (VPIP: 24.94, PFR: 20.67, 3Bet Preflop: 4.91, Hands: 439)
CO: $9.86 (VPIP: 40.00, PFR: 20.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 6)

SB posts SB $0.05, Hero posts BB $0.10

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.15) Hero has J:club: Q:club:

UTG raises to $0.20, MP calls $0.20, fold, fold, fold, Hero calls $0.10

Flop: ($0.65, 3 players) 7:heart: J:diamond: Q:diamond:
Hero checks, UTG checks, MP checks

Turn: ($0.65, 3 players) 6:club:
Hero bets $0.46, UTG raises to $1.12, fold, Hero raises to $2.83, UTG raises to $10.52 and is all-in, Hero calls $7.69

River: ($21.69, 2 players) 8:diamond:



So my thoughts in the hand was, this level it's like drawing blood from a stone.

I check hoping to set things up. Anyways by the time i bet and our villain re-raises.

I'm thinking perhaps villain perhaps had Overpairs or top pair or some bluffs in his range. Thinking i whiffed it perhaps?
 
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Never a bluff. It's such a wet board, and if he had a semi-bluff, he'd probably stab at the flop or flat your bet IP OTT. This board hits two callers' range very hard, so he's not going to raise with air with MP to act behind him and a bettor in front of him.

Pretty bad slowplay by Villain if he flopped a set. Don't think it's an overpair. Most likely a set. 66 makes a lot of sense, and he might do this with QQ/JJ/77 if he's fishy enough to check back such a wet board. Not everyone opens QJs UTG, and with such a vulnerable hand I'd expect them to bet flop. Very unlikely he's going crazy here with an overpair/TPTK.
 
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Always leading out on this board with top 2 into the PFR. I think this is a pretty standard line MW, and the best way to get paid at these stakes is take the most profitable standard line. No need or reason to deviate.
 
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why you don't bet on flop. He had may be pocket 6 6, but only not diamonds.
 
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Yeh but john he opened 20 which tells me he isnt a good player
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I wanted him to fall in love with his hand and stack off?

Lets say it was tag and he opened standard and i could put overpairs def in his range then now cbet is always fun
 
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He did end up getting a miracle turn lol he had set of 6s lol
 
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66 I called it :). Yep, agree with John here. Always leading out with top two here. So many hands can call us multi-way, and overpairs are probably paying off three streets because most of the population cannot fold overpairs. Also, on such a wet board, the PFR or MP can check behind their draws in fear of getting raised and get to realize their equity cheaply. Or catch a 2-outer like UTG did here.

I think as played turn should have been a sigh-fold, maybe call and check-fold river if he bets really big. By 3-betting the turn, you're pretty much isolating yourself against a super nutted range and allowing him to play perfectly against you with that small raise. If he is making a move with a combo draw (which is unlikely due to population tendencies), he can just flat IP and fold river unimproved. And if he has a monster, he is going to jam, and you're going to call off drawing super thin.

You're really not beating much the way the hand played out either. He's probably not raising a NFD type of hand, and there aren't that many combo draws from UTG anyway. Also, he can't really expect us to fold much of our range here, definitely not Qx/pair+draw/Qx + draw/2PR, and he's probably not making a move with MP behind him on a super wet board. Imo we're going to see a set here a large percentage of the time.

People make moves much less than you think they do. I've played about 100k hands from 25NL-100NL, and only once have I seen someone raise a big combo draw OTT. Turn raises are very very strong. They are pretty much always top two, sets, straights, FHs, flushes. And the occasional A or K high spazzes in 3-bet pots.
 
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MinhANguyen said:
66 I called it :). Yep, agree with John here. Always leading out with top two here. So many hands can call us multi-way, and overpairs are probably paying off three streets because most of the population cannot fold overpairs. Also, on such a wet board, the PFR or MP can check behind their draws in fear of getting raised and get to realize their equity cheaply. Or catch a 2-outer like UTG did here.

I think as played turn should have been a sigh-fold, maybe call and check-fold river if he bets really big. By 3-betting the turn, you're pretty much isolating yourself against a super nutted range and allowing him to play perfectly against you with that small raise. If he is making a move with a combo draw (which is unlikely due to population tendencies), he can just flat IP and fold river unimproved. And if he has a monster, he is going to jam, and you're going to call off drawing super thin.

You're really not beating much the way the hand played out either. He's probably not raising a NFD type of hand, and there aren't that many combo draws from UTG anyway. Also, he can't really expect us to fold much of our range here, definitely not Qx/pair+draw/Qx + draw/2PR, and he's probably not making a move with MP behind him on a super wet board. Imo we're going to see a set here a large percentage of the time.

People make moves much less than you think they do. I've played about 100k hands from 25NL-100NL, and only once have I seen someone raise a big combo draw OTT. Turn raises are very very strong. They are pretty much always top two, sets, straights, FHs, flushes. And the occasional A or K high spazzes in 3-bet pots.
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10 zoom they don't make many moves either :)

thanks for the awesome feedback!
 
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this is how the hand should've went lol

PokerStars - $0.10 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: $19.64 (VPIP: 23.13, PFR: 16.42, 3Bet Preflop: 2.13, Hands: 137)
Hero (SB): $10.05
BB: $11.39
UTG: $10.39 (VPIP: 28.57, PFR: 28.57, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 14)
MP: $10.71
CO: $11.67 (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 2)

Hero posts SB $0.05, BB posts BB $0.10

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.15) Hero has J:spade: Q:diamond:

fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to $0.30, BB calls $0.20

Flop: ($0.60, 2 players) J:diamond: 5:diamond: Q:heart:
Hero bets $0.42, BB calls $0.42

Turn: ($1.44, 2 players) 7:heart:
Hero checks, BB bets $0.78, Hero raises to $2.54, BB calls $1.76

River: ($6.52, 2 players) 9:diamond:
Hero bets $6.79 and is all-in, BB calls $6.79

Hero shows J:spade: Q:diamond: (Two Pair, Queens and Jacks)
(Pre 69%, Flop 99%, Turn 95%)
BB shows Q:club: 7:club: (Two Pair, Queens and Sevens)
(Pre 31%, Flop 1%, Turn 5%)
Hero wins $19.20
 
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