$10 NLHE 6-max: Q9s multiway facing aggression on turn&river, how could I have played differently?

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$10 NLHE 6-max: Q9s multiway facing aggression on turn&river, how could I have played differently?

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Flop price too good to fold.

Turn call is based on implied odds (nearly direct odds) as I think a J would've bet/raised the flop. Flush draw is possible but so is a flopped FH or a lower pocket pair. Plan to call river if I hit.

Continuing aggression on river and feel obliged to call. What could I have done differently?

Hand Information
, 0.1 BB (6 handed).
Hand History converter courtesy of pokerhandreplays.com
Table Information
Seat: 1 Player 1 ($7.9) Dealer
Seat: 2 Hero ($10.95) Small Blind
Seat: 3 Player 3 ($32.75) Big Blind
Seat: 4 Player 4 ($13.01)
Seat: 5 Player 5 ($10.16)
Seat: 6 Player 6 ($10.68)
Dealt to Hero
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Preflop (Pot:0.15)
Player 4 RAISE $0.25
Player 5 FOLD
Player 6 FOLD
Player 1 CALL $0.25
Hero CALL $0.2
Player 3 CALL $0.15

Flop(Pot: $1)
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JD.png
8H.png

Hero CHECK
Player 3 CHECK
Player 4 CHECK
Player 1 BET $0.3
Hero CALL $0.3
Player 3 CALL $0.3
Player 4 CALL $0.3

Turn(Pot: $2.2)
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JD.png
8H.png
6D.png

Hero CHECK
Player 3 CHECK
Player 4 CHECK
Player 1 BET $0.2
Hero CALL $0.2
Player 3 RAISE $1.7
Player 4 FOLD
Player 1 FOLD
Hero CALL $1.5

River(Pot: $5.8)
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JD.png
8H.png
6D.png
TC.png

Hero CHECK
Player 3 BET $3
Hero CALL
 
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Every street is pretty bad... :(
Fold pre-flop, raise flop or fold. Lead turn, bet or CR river depending on opponent.
 
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Every street is pretty bad... :(
Fold pre-flop, raise flop or fold. Lead turn, bet or CR river depending on opponent.
Yeah I kind of realized that (reason for posting). :)

Preflop: I am trying to implement some speculative hands in my range, and prefer multiway pots (and position, but won't let the latter become the sole reason). So that's why I didn't fold PF.

Flop: Would be awesome for explanations why you suggest raising flop? But I can definitely find a fold there. Obv I fold to a re-raise?

Turn: Leading turn feels very aggressive if 1-2 opponents called my flop raise. Noone is folding a Jack and I am still up against a potential flush draw. If I miss I must check river, correct?

I felt check/calling river oop was the best option, as I did feel very lost and just wanted to get to showdown. But I suppose a bet/cr on river comes in handy, will he often play a set like this? Wouldn't he have raised the flop with a flush draw out there multiway? What other hands can I expect him to call with?

Do I fold to a river raise?
 
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I like squeezing this hand pre.
I'm folding the flop, the villains behind us could raise and our guts/shots/back door aren't to the nuts.

Stuff like gutshots/backdoors we don't call solely to draw as we rarely get the odds it's more to float and take down the pot next street, which isn't a very good prospect 4way.
 
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I like squeezing this hand pre.
I'm folding the flop, the villains behind us could raise and our guts/shots/back door aren't to the nuts.

Stuff like gutshots/backdoors we don't call solely to draw as we rarely get the odds it's more to float and take down the pot next street, which isn't a very good prospect 4way.
Thanks, very helpful.
 
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Yeah I kind of realized that (reason for posting). :)

Preflop: I am trying to implement some speculative hands in my range, and prefer multiway pots (and position, but won't let the latter become the sole reason). So that's why I didn't fold PF.
Spec hands that don't draw really often are pretty bad to play OOP. From the blinds you should turn them, usually, into either semibluff 3bets or folds. Playing draws OOP is to say the least very awkward.
 
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