$10 NLHE 6-max: Q3s in position

playing positional play here:

Absolute - $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em (3 players)
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SB: $2.75
BB: $10.37
UTG Hero: $10.95

Pre-flop: ($0.15) Hero is UTG and dealt
Hero raises to $0.20, SB calls $0.15, BB calls $0.10

Flop: ($0.60) (3 players)
SB bets $0.10, BB calls $0.10
hero?

id probably just call and hope to hit a 3 or Q lol

for 10cents, sure, Im calling this every time. 8-1 pot odds on our calling 10cents with a heavilly disguised hand.

lol-bump.

lets see if we can get thought THIS hand without any lol-drama!:

Absolute - $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em (3 players)
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SB: $2.75
BB: $10.37
UTG Hero: $10.95

Pre-flop: ($0.15) Hero is UTG and dealt
Hero raises to $0.20, SB calls $0.15, BB calls $0.10

Flop: ($0.60) (3 players)
SB bets $0.10, BB calls $0.10, Hero calls $0.10

Turn: ($0.90) (3 players)
SB bets $0.10, BB calls $0.10, Hero ?

keep calling. why did we minraise pre again?

raise 2.5-3.5 pre

Playing hands like this from btn is very villian dependent imo, but w/out reads....

Raise flop bet to .45-.65, fold to sb's shove


If your going to play hands like this on the btn, you have to play them aggro. your not playing them for value, your exploiting your position.

bgomez89 said:

keep calling. why did we minraise pre again?

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sooooted in great position.

xdeuceswild81xx said:

raise 2.5-3.5 pre

Playing hands like this from btn is very villian dependent imo, but w/out reads....

Raise flop bet to .45-.65, fold to sb's shove


If your going to play hands like this on the btn, you have to play them aggro. your not playing them for value, your exploiting your position.

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yeah I could have got so much more out of the hand if I could sort out my value-betting/exploitation of villain(s) when IP.

but as played, hero ?

Kind of pointless to continue debating hand, but i guess call?

Your beating nothing, but if you catch a Q or 3 on river your most likely ahead

keep calling, once you are on that line of play. now, results-wise, did SB have A2 or A5?

Absolute - $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em (3 players)
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SB: $2.75
BB: $10.37
UTG Hero: $10.95

Pre-flop: ($0.15) Hero is UTG and dealt
Hero raises to $0.20, SB calls $0.15, BB calls $0.10

Flop: ($0.60) (3 players)
SB bets $0.10, BB calls $0.10, Hero calls $0.10

Turn: ($0.90) (3 players)
SB bets $0.10, BB calls $0.10, Hero calls $0.10

River: ($1.20) (3 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets ?


so we've gone to the river with a very weak pair, IP. SB and BB both check, what do we do? check also? bet half-pot and pray for folds, or shove and maybe get looked up by killer hands, slowly played?, or some other play?

Played this hand awful IMO. Sorry KD

ok. thats your opinion, and you're probably right. But what are you doing on that river when it's checked to you?

I read your opinions in the other thread, you think people are getting on your back a bit so i'll expand further on my previous reply rather than just saying it was played bad. We're here to learn after all


I think why you're playing Q3 OTB is wrong. You say because it's 'sooted and because you have position'. Well being suited doesn't really matter if you're not going to play aggressively.
If the flop was would you play it any differently? You should because now you have a BDFD and a lot more turn cards will help you. In that instance i'd probably raise 75% of the time (villain dependent).

You're playing IP but you're not using your position effectively enough to justify playing trash like Q3s. Acting last isn't an advantage if you're just going to call down with bottom pair. As played we can put SB and BB both on weak showdown value hands, so you should bet if you think you can get them both to fold a hand like 66, 77, J9 etc which i'd expect they won't. So i'm just checking behind here.

I understand that, but what about floating two streets when villains bet small(act weak), and then when the river comes and if/when they check then betting them off the hand? Risky play, I admit, but I take risks.

KerouacsDog said:

I understand that, but what about floating two streets when villains bet small(act weak), and then when the river comes and if/when they check then betting them off the hand? Risky play, I admit, but I take risks.

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Are you really betting them off a hand of just getting them to fold hands like T2?

This question probably doesn't matter here because your opponents are obviously horrible BUT what legitimate hands could you possibly have to value bet that river after playing the rest of the hand the way you did?

yeah i agree WV, and i guess thats why my stats/results are so skewed at Absolute/UB, because at this site the fish are such horrible players, its beyond belief. I even think with my pair of 3's Im ahead here, i dont know, they would have called with any part of the flop, which would beat my 5th pair. Id like to think that one of them had a pair of fours, but I'll never know as they both folded;

Absolute - $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em (3 players)
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SB: $2.75
BB: $10.37
UTG Hero: $10.95

Pre-flop: ($0.15) Hero is UTG and dealt
Hero raises to $0.20, SB calls $0.15, BB calls $0.10

Flop: ($0.60) (3 players)
SB bets $0.10, BB calls $0.10, Hero calls $0.10

Turn: ($0.90) (3 players)
SB bets $0.10, BB calls $0.10, Hero calls $0.10

River: ($1.20) (3 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets $0.60, 2 folds, Hero returned $0.60