$10 NLHE 6-max: Overplayed AA, bad river call?

T

thebigslade

Enthusiast
Silver Level
Joined
Jul 17, 2012
Total posts
79
Chips
0
Bleugh. Didn't have many hands on villain, maybe x/c or x/f river? Having quite a nice session up to this point.

PokerStars - $0.10 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BB: 127.7 BB (VPIP: 20.83, PFR: 16.67, 3Bet Preflop: 10.00, Hands: 25)
Hero (UTG): 101 BB
MP: 43.7 BB (VPIP: 17.07, PFR: 10.98, 3Bet Preflop: 2.78, Hands: 83)
CO: 202.5 BB (VPIP: 87.50, PFR: 68.75, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 17)
BTN: 102 BB (VPIP: 19.93, PFR: 12.32, 3Bet Preflop: 6.50, Hands: 283)
SB: 186.7 BB (VPIP: 28.00, PFR: 12.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 25)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has A:club: A:spade:

Hero raises to 4 BB, fold, CO calls 4 BB, fold, fold, fold

Flop: (9.5 BB, 2 players) 5:diamond: 5:spade: J:spade:
Hero bets 7.4 BB, CO calls 7.4 BB

Turn: (24.3 BB, 2 players) T:heart:
Hero bets 15.6 BB, CO calls 15.6 BB

River: (55.5 BB, 2 players) 5:club:
Hero bets 26.5 BB, CO raises to 53 BB, Hero calls 26.5 BB
CO shows A:diamond: 5:heart: (Four of a Kind, Fives) (Pre 9%, Flop 91%, Turn 98%)
Hero mucks A:club: A:spade: (Full House, Fives full of Aces) (Pre 91%, Flop 9%, Turn 2%)
CO wins 154.2 BB
 
S

SwiftHax

Rock Star
Silver Level
Joined
Dec 14, 2013
Total posts
367
Chips
0
Calling an UTG open with A5o... I don't see anything wrong with your hand. It's hard to believe he has a 5 especially on the river. TT and JJ are possibilities, but you have to call his bet considering the stats. I know the sample is very small, but the player doesn't look solid to me and I wouldn't be surprised if he gets crazy with AJ.
 
H

Henreiman

Visionary
Silver Level
Joined
Feb 17, 2008
Total posts
560
Chips
0
Yeah this is a snap-call, I'd even consider shoving hoping he overvalues Jx.
 
suby_rafael

suby_rafael

Legend
Silver Level
Joined
Feb 24, 2014
Total posts
1,039
Chips
0
unlucky

well this is really a bit unlucky but since you were out of position you could tried to slow down since the turn ... however this is easy to say in hindsight and the way you continued playing it on that board your aces will be good most of the time.

So yeah its a bit unlucky to your opponent having a five there. But had you bit a bit conservative you might have been able to loose a little less chips by slowing down since the turn as you were out of position and assuming villian doesn't go for all your chips at the turn or river.:toilet:
 
S

swingro

Legend
Silver Level
Joined
Jan 13, 2010
Total posts
1,634
Chips
0
I would had shoved the river. If he has a 5 it is just a cooler but a lot more times he will have a J or soome kind of middle pair or even AK, AQ, KQ . He would had played the hand the same way. Maniacs rarely hit but they put their stack on the middle all of the time.
Do not slowdown. You need a lot more history to know if a check on the river will make him shove.
 
D

Dikkas

Rising Star
Bronze Level
Joined
Apr 5, 2014
Total posts
10
Chips
0
imo u played correctly, i mean the stats was on ur favour, u were just unlucky he got the 5
 
Karozi615

Karozi615

Visionary
Silver Level
Joined
Aug 20, 2012
Total posts
517
Chips
0
literally a snap.. great flop for you, blank turn. your way ahead of villains shoving range. I would expect villains range to be 555JJ over 75% of the time in this spot.

Every once and awhile they have it. Don't be results oriented though.
 
S

seymourflopsws3

Enthusiast
Silver Level
Joined
Oct 17, 2012
Total posts
75
Chips
0
Don't think you should of ever slowed down there, your only losing to a 5 OTF and OTT as with those stats I'd say he always 3 bets JJ and TT. He calls your raise with any PP except maybe TT+ (88+ in the worst scenario). So you still beat any J (worst case J7-AJ) and 22-99 (22-77 worst case).

If he's clicking it back on the river there's never any argument here for folding IMO. Valid argument for shoving also but with so few hands I'd prefer to just call personally. Your never getting away when a five is so unlikely and fills him up to so many lesser holdings.
 
John A

John A

Poker Zion Coach
Silver Level
Joined
Apr 12, 2012
Total posts
6,496
Awards
3
Chips
40
Actually jamming is much higher EV than calling, and folding is just burning money.
 
U

Ubercroz

Visionary
Silver Level
Joined
Jun 8, 2009
Total posts
653
Chips
0
People almost never fold a full house. You could shove here and get a call from just about any pocket pair, a single J, or sometimes even a naked A that doesn't believe you.

Shoving the river is pretty good here. Calling is better than folding though.
 
H

hffjd2000

Legend
Silver Level
Joined
Jan 6, 2014
Total posts
2,329
Chips
0
You have to pay him off.

Many hands you beat except the one his holding.

Its good in your part you just call on the river.
 
T0mmmi

T0mmmi

Rock Star
Silver Level
Joined
Feb 8, 2014
Total posts
152
Chips
0
Hi man !

After reading the about how the game went...the only think I can say is that you should probably known after the Turn that he is holding some kind of 5 as he snap called your post Flop and Turn raise > yes he might be just bluffing with any 2 but as he re-Raised you on the River > not many player do that with bluff.

You should mark this player as Ace mater > One who plays all Ax combinations.

You only got very unlucky as A5 beat AA ... no worries....in long term you should be making money with Pocket Rockets !

Good Luck @TAbles
 
S

swingro

Legend
Silver Level
Joined
Jan 13, 2010
Total posts
1,634
Chips
0
Hi man !

After reading the about how the game went...the only think I can say is that you should probably known after the Turn that he is holding some kind of 5 as he snap called your post Flop and Turn raise > yes he might be just bluffing with any 2 but as he re-Raised you on the River > not many player do that with Bluff.

You should mark this player as Ace mater > One who plays all Ax combinations.

You only got very unlucky as A5 beat AA ... no worries....in long term you should be making money with Pocket Rockets !

Good Luck @TAbles

How do you know that?
His stats show that he is a maniac. His range is virtually any 2 cards. He will put his stack on the line with a lot of dumb things not only a 5.
 
Top