$10 NLHE 6-max: Overpair+straighdraw on Raised flop

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Played on Microgaming so I don't have handhistory, this is from memory.

Anonymous table 6 players. stakes: $.05/$.10, 100bb deep. Hero in SB with TT.

BTN raises to .20
Hero raises to .70
BB folds
BTN calls

Flop is 986 rainbow. Pot is 1.50.

Hero bets .90
BTN raises 2.50

We have an overpair and gutshot. What do we do here?
 
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i assume the 2.50 bet is not an allin bet it's hard to call here there is lot of scary cards that could come on the turn. i would love to push here but i need to know the stack sizes to know if there is any fold equity out there
 
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i would play the hand same way as you did but i would size my bets bigger like 80c preflop and about 70% of pot on the flop.
when getting raised i think we have to call here against unknown villain and give up on turn if we dont improve.
someone pls correct me if im wrong.
 
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i assume the 2.50 bet is not an allin bet it's hard to call here there is lot of scary cards that could come on the turn. i would love to push here but i need to know the stack sizes to know if there is any fold equity out there

Both started with 100bb
 
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This is one of those highly villain dependent spots. If villain is known to be super aggresive then it is a pretty decent call, versus a nit it might be harder to justify.


Versus an unkown, i would say that this is a likely range: 99, 88, 66, A9, TT-QQ/KK, 98s.
So...



board: 9 8 6
HandEquityWinsTiesTT44.53%5,905,296463,53699, 88, 66, A9, TT, JJ, QQ, 9d8d, 9s8s, 9h8h, 9c8c55.47%7,411,968463,536


We are almost chopping against this range, so if you think he has this range ever easy call.
 
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This is one of those highly villain dependent spots. If villain is known to be super aggresive then it is a pretty decent call, versus a nit it might be harder to justify.


Versus an unkown, i would say that this is a likely range: 99, 88, 66, A9, TT-QQ/KK, 98s.
So...



board: 9 8 6
HandEquityWinsTiesTT44.53%5,905,296463,53699, 88, 66, A9, TT, JJ, QQ, 9d8d, 9s8s, 9h8h, 9c8c55.47%7,411,968463,536


We are almost chopping against this range, so if you think he has this range ever easy call.

Thanks, I guess an all-in push is bad if we put him on this range?
 
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Depends on how loose the player pool is if you think that there is a good chance that you already beat some of his hands then calling or even jamming is certainly good.

The pot is 4.90 you need to put in 1.60 to call. Lets for simplicity say that when you check you and you hit you will be able to get it all in and win the pot (which is 6.80 more).
When you hit (6 outs is 12%) you will gain 6.80 + 4.90 = 11.70 gives 0.12 * 11.70 = 1.404
If you don't hit (100-12 = 88%) you lost 1.60 gives 1.60 * 0.88 = 1.408
So against super NIT a call would be break even play under ideal circumstances, so would fold against a NIT.

In my opinion on the micros you also will be more behind then ahead so would let it go (there are not enough people that would call pre-flop with A9 or 9T or 89 or 87) or make a play like this with AK or AQ.
 
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Thanks for your input. I can reveal that he had:
T7s
 
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Wow... honestly i recognized that that was the nuts, but was just thinking "He really shouldn't be calling 3-bets with T7." I think that, while it might seem strange, if he is capable of calling with T7 then we can be calling more profitably.

And yes, jamming against the range i posted would be terrible... folding out all of his bluffs, TPTK hands and only getting called by better.

** strange i can read spoilers in the comments but not on main posts...
 
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Wow indeed that hand did not cross my mind. But yes T7s is indeed also in his calling range.
 
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Yeah not the best flop as there are straight draws and 2 pairs and sets that he can hit. I think we still have to cbet this board with a gutshot.
Perhaps bet smaller on the flop.
 
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0.90 (60%) is an ok sizing.

One could go for less as you hold TT meaning that are not much drawing hands that beat you on the other hand your vulnerable to overcards so in the end 60% is ok.
 
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** strange i can read spoilers in the comments but not on main posts...


Actually.. the very same thing happens here on my computer. (running on WinVista.. perhaps that is why?)
 
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demios, keep posting! (good to see you in today's game on partypoker (finally)
We've played a few hands on the tables before.

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I put him in AA, KK, QQ, JJ, he called just to see the flop, and certainly already had in mind that he would put everyone in a bad situation leading to 2.50 .. AK, AT, I also put him in his hands
Now you have a very good TT, to play post flop, you have the order, you have the pair done, I would pay on the turn, if you do not hit 7, or another T (10) yours, I would only check, and river comes all low, I go all in ..
Now the important factor you have not talked about, and how they play, is BT a safe player? loose this must be taken into account when making the decision
 
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