$10 NLHE 6-max: Overbetting is Fun (BTN v BB)

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This one is a little different from most of the hands posted here. I played this hand last night on Zone. So, aside from stack sizes, I know nothing about the BB. I am wondering what range other people would put the BB on. And, given that range, what is the weakest hand that I (the BTN) could profitably call the river with.

CO: 5.55
BTN: 50.15
SB: 6.17
BB: 28.22
UTG: 8.46
MP: 12.38

Pre-flop: ($0.15) BTN is dealt [X][X]
1 fold, MP calls $0.10, BTN raises to $0.45, 1 fold, BB raises to $0.80, 1 fold, BTN calls $0.35

Flop: ($1.85) :8s4::6s4::9c4:
BB bets $3, BTN calls $3

Turn: ($7.85) :6c4:
BB checks, BTN checks

River: ($7.85) :qd4:
BB bets $9, BTN . . .

Anyway, what range do you think we can put the BB on? And, based on that range, what is the weakest hand we can call with. Obviously, if we have quad 6s, they would play themselves. But, I am more interested in the cut-off point. I have left my exact hand out because I don't want people saying stuff like "easy call" or "snap fold."
 
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All of his bets were badly sized so you have to wonder what, or if, he's thinking.
I'd put him on big aces, pairs and bluffs. I think it's unlikely the turn and river changed anything. Your pot odds to call aren't awesome so you could easily wait for another hand. I'd want something that could beat a few of his value hands. TT or better.
 
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It ranges from total air... To complete monsters... I'm folding anything less than AA + but u don't have that probably since u flatted the 3 bet. There will be better spots... He probably has the nuts and wants u to think his bet is full of shit by his strange sizing. Fold anything worse than a set IMO
 
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All of his bets were badly sized so you have to wonder what, or if, he's thinking.
I'd put him on big aces, pairs and bluffs. I think it's unlikely the turn and river changed anything. Your pot odds to call aren't awesome so you could easily wait for another hand. I'd want something that could beat a few of his value hands. TT or better.

My odds to call aren't super, that's true, but they're not much worse than a normal pot-sized bet. I am getting 1.87:1 as opposed to the normal 2:1, a difference that amounts to 1.5% more equity needed to call. After rake and everything, I figured out that we need to win 36.8% of the time to call here (we need 35.1% after rake for a pot-sized bet).

In a vacuum, his bets are badly sized. Now, I do occasionally over-bet the flop when stacks are deep, and I want to get stacks in. An over-bet on the flop (8/5 pot), pot turn, and 3/4 pot bet would get us all-in on the river. That's less threatening than pot, pot, 6/5 pot. If we're getting all-in, there's going to have to be an over-bet or a raise at some point in the hand. Sure, we're over-betting by a larger percentage in the first scenario, but it's a smaller absolute bet and smaller relative to the remaining stacks. So, it's easier for a player to find the call button. Typically, I need a history with a player to do this.

Frankly, if he had bet pot (or close to it) on the turn, I would have been forced to fold anything but a monster. When he checks the turn, I think his range of monsters narrows a lot. That's not to say his range isn't strong or that he doesn't have a good hand. I just feel it makes very-strong hands (99, 66, 88) less likely. Of course, this is 10nl and anything is possible.
 
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