$10 NLHE 6-max: Other alternatives here?

$10 NL HE 6-max: Other alternatives here?

Ok so we are 5 at the table (no stats on villain)

Villain is small blind with 9.40$
I am UTG with 10.74$

I am dealt 88 and i raise to 35 cents.
Button, sb and bb call

Flop: 2H Ac 5C

My reasoning is that at micro stakes, 3 others in a pot and there is an ace out there, likely one of these guys also holds an ace.
If we were heads up I would have c-bet on an uncoordinated board like that.

So I check and it gets checked all around

Turn: 7S
Pot: 1.40$

sb and bb check to me and so I figure I likely have the best hand now so I raise one dollar.

BB re-raises to 4$, everyone else folds

After having seen him call out of the SB, and check it around twice, I figured my eights were good and he was trying a re-raise bluff.

I figured he gave me lots of info with his preflop call, didnt hit something and his 2 checks confirmed it for me, so I call.

River: Jc

So a flush is out there now possibly. Thinking back, he didnt bet at all the first 2 streets, then reraised, but would he have played a flush draw like that? would he have reraised a flush draw like that?

he bets 5.10$ all in and I call, he turns over a set of two's.

My mistake as I see it: I built a big pot without a big hand and I had no real draws to improve to a better hand.

My river call may not have been thought out properly but I dont think my play beforehand may have been bad necesarily.

Your thoughts gents?

RAFC24 said:

After having seen him call out of the SB, and check it around twice, I figured my eights were good and he was trying a re-raise bluff.

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Very rare at 10nl to see a re-raise bluff, esp that big. He was almost certainly looking to ch/r your cbet, which you didn't make.

Please use converted hh's and don't post results, it biases the discussion.

Tx slycbnew

What is a hh?

Basically, your over thinking at a higher level than you should. This is why I went bust with my initial $50 deposit and now I finally see that (also I was trying to make the grind a sprint instead of a marathon). I was trying to gauge my opponents, call their bluffs and all that crap. ABC poker gets it done here.

At these stakes you basically need to do to others what that guy did to you. Make them over think situations and donate the chips to you. Change your mentality, man. Play TAG (don't forget the AGGRESSIVE part), make those C-Bets (Big C-Bets), bet big and you'll get paid off eventually...don't forget to be deep-stacked. Short stacks may or may not get action and there's an art to SSing correctly. Scared money never wins, not long term anyway. Patience is key and its why I went bust...I didn't have any, but I'm back and working on controlling it. Everything was fine until I got greedy and anxious and started to try and out think players at this level...

RAFC24 said:

Tx slycbnew

What is a hh?

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Hand history. For online sites, you can have your hand histories saved to your hard drive and converted. In the Full Tilt main lobby, Options/Hand History will allow you to save the hh to your hard drive. You can then use a converter - here's one, there are several: http://www.stoxpoker.com/hand_history_converter/

Just cbet this flop, and give up if called. Everyone's going to give you credit when that ace flops, so your cbets have a much higher success rate on an ace high board.

Checking the flop, which seemed harmless at the time, really set you up for downfall. Because you checked that street, you now are expecting your opponents think it much less likely you have an ace. This pretty directly led to you incorrectly assessing why the villain was raising. He did in fact have a lot of indicators that a bluff would work quite often, making a bluff possible, but we just didn't have enough information to make a very good decision. Had you fired at the flop, it would have been quite clear that at the very least the ace on the board didn't discourage our opponent too much, and we could pretty easily get off this one.

Also, I wanted to say it's great that you're really thinking about the hand. You may have arrived at the wrong answer this time, but the fact that you have reasons for your actions is huge. That's a pretty good sign of things to come imo.

Mase31683 said:

Also, I wanted to say it's great that you're really thinking about the hand. You may have arrived at the wrong answer this time, but the fact that you have reasons for your actions is huge. That's a pretty good sign of things to come imo.

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+1

Mase31683 said:

Just cbet this flop, and give up if called. Everyone's going to give you credit when that ace flops, so your cbets have a much higher success rate on an ace high board.

Checking the flop, which seemed harmless at the time, really set you up for downfall. Because you checked that street, you now are expecting your opponents think it much less likely you have an ace. This pretty directly led to you incorrectly assessing why the villain was raising. He did in fact have a lot of indicators that a bluff would work quite often, making a bluff possible, but we just didn't have enough information to make a very good decision. Had you fired at the flop, it would have been quite clear that at the very least the ace on the board didn't discourage our opponent too much, and we could pretty easily get off this one.

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Thanks for your feedback Mase, your comments reflect the fact that while I was thinking about the other guy's potential range, I failed to take into account their perception of My range.