$10 NLHE 6-max: Nuts on River, check OOP, right play?

Wanted to get some thoughts on this. I hit the nuts on the turn, OOP, what do you think of the hand as played, and the check on the river?

PokerStars - $0.10 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

CO: 44 BB (VPIP: 6.67, PFR: 6.67, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, hands: 15)
BTN: 78.5 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 2)
Hero (SB): 100 BB
BB: 100 BB
UTG: 104.2 BB (VPIP: 19.05, PFR: 14.29, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 23)
MP: 45.1 BB (VPIP: 64.29, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 15)

Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has Q:club: A:club:

fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, BB calls 2 BB

Flop: (6 BB, 2 players) 4:spade: 2:club: 7:club:
Hero bets 4 BB, BB calls 4 BB

Turn: (14 BB, 2 players) T:club:
Hero bets 6 BB, BB raises to 20 BB, Hero calls 14 BB

River: (54 BB, 2 players) A:diamond:
Hero checks, BB bets 35 BB, Hero raises to 73 BB and is all-in, BB calls 38 BB and is all-in

It depends on your opponent - is he TAG or LAG? If you're going for some fancy moves it's always best to know your opponent and have some idea about his betting patterns because he could be very well 3-betting a set of 10s or maybe even playing with pure air and trying to represent the flush and of course he could be holding a King high flush. He will check/fold air, check/call a set and bet/raise a King High flush, so as far as I'm concerned betting here is better. On this river I would probably bet small compared to the pot, represent a pair of aces and surely, if he's got anything decent he'll raise me and I would jam.

He was showing some aggression on the turn, to be honest I don't see a reason to keep going. He likely has a flush as well.

If he was bluffing the turn, he may just check back the river thinking you would only call that turn raise with a flush. Additionally you may get a check back from a very weak flush.

I don't think you will be getting many bluffs here, and since most mid strength flushes or better are calling here pretty much no matter what, you may as well just bet and raise and get it in.

I would just keeping jamming away on the turn after he raised it.

Ubercroz said:

He was showing some aggression on the turn, to be honest I don't see a reason to keep going. He likely has a flush as well.

If he was bluffing the turn, he may just check back the river thinking you would only call that turn raise with a flush. Additionally you may get a check back from a very weak flush.

I don't think you will be getting many bluffs here, and since most mid strength flushes or better are calling here pretty much no matter what, you may as well just bet and raise and get it in.

I would just keeping jamming away on the turn after he raised it.

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I think he would've played the hand differently if faced with aggression on the turn. I would definetaly raise though, but sometimes when in position I think you can call him and wait for a value-bet on the river to which you can respond by stacking.

SwiftHax said:

I think he would've played the hand differently if faced with aggression on the turn. I would definetaly raise though, but sometimes when in position I think you can call him and wait for a value-bet on the river to which you can respond by stacking.

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I didn't have position.

When he raised my turn Cbet so large, I'm thinking he's repping a flush. When I flat call his turn raise, I basically say I have the flush as well.

I think he bets any flush on the river if I check, but could fold some to a bet. So x/r could be +ev?

thebigslade said:

I didn't have position.

When he raised my turn Cbet so large, I'm thinking he's repping a flush. When I flat call his turn raise, I basically say I have the flush as well.

I think he bets any flush on the river if I check, but could fold some to a bet. So x/r could be +ev?

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This isn't correct.

You bet so weak on the turn, your opponent can have a super wide range. But for value there's still a lot of worse hands he can have besides flushes. Flatting this doesn't mean you have a flush either.

There's not too much that can be said about the turn or river w/o stats or info. How come there's stats for everyone but the 2 people involved in the hand?

If your flatting the turn raise believing he's either representing or has the flush, checking the river makes sense to me as he can bluff or bet for value with his flush. Considering you could call the turn with any set, AAc, QQc or JJc on a draw, it would make sense for him to continue his story and bluff the river IMO.

Stats would be nice though

You played this hand optimally, hands down. You had the nuts and your opponent was showing extreme aggression. When you check on the river you give the villain an opportunity to make a mistake - it's really that simple.

A lot of times at the micro level I would advocate just betting your strong hands for value but in this spot you played it perfectly and it worked out perfectly.

If you bet and your opponent has nothing they just fold - and that sucks.

If you check, not only do they bet their air, but they bet hands that they SHOULDN'T be betting for value, especially at this level.


Villain could easily have been betting a smaller flush at the micros, because it is the MICROS. They don't understand relative hand strength and why a check back is the smartest play after you flat the 3bet on the turn.

Also, due to what I just said, if they do have a hand they probably only flat your value bet on the river. The best part about the micros is that when you check raise all in on the river, the same opponent that should have checked back a small flush is going to snap you off even though they can NEVER be good.


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