$10 NLHE 6-max: Line check vs aggressive reg

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poker stars $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 2233211
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MP: $20.42
CO: $4.00
BTN: $10.00
Hero (SB): $10.86
BB: $10.30
UTG: $23.16

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is SB with J
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Q
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4 folds, Hero raises to $0.30, BB calls $0.20

Flop: ($0.60) 5
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3
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8
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(2 players)
Hero bets $0.40, BB calls $0.40

Turn: ($1.40) Q
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Hero checks, BB bets $0.85, Hero calls $0.85

River: ($3.10) T
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Hero checks, BB bets $1.70, Hero calls $1.70

Villain is 20/19/60 (VP/PF/AFq) and is a pretty capable and aggressive player in general. We happy taking this line to induce and extract the maximum from him?
 
igySK

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what is his raise cbet stat? I'd probably go for a 2nd barrel, it's a good barrel card for you so he's gonna call with 8x, PP, draw. If he decides to bluff I think it's mostly gonna be on the flop and if he calls his range is semi-weak.
 
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You don't think this is a great spot for him to float me? I would think that because the turn is such a great barrel card that is the precise reason I should check when I get there and let him fire away?
 
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The problem is with these battles especially in the small blinds... You never know where you are when you hit this resistance.

The turn card may have been the only scare card you have to win the pot... perhaps a raise there and a call would tell you your behind, but you checked and you made the hand even more uncertain.

We want to put your opponent in a bad spot, but your putting yourself in a spot of uncertainty. Your going to loose a lot of money with this line.

Plus he calls your preflop raiser should be alarming enough for you and that's why I don't like your .30 bet, it's just not high enough and your inducing a call with such a weakish easily dominated starting hand


You have the worst position in the game... At best its a stealing hand no more no less.. You hit your Queen and still uncertain which means a bluff is stronger than u some of the time. and when you do try and catch it they'll have two pair or better kicker..




The only way you could probably exploit this guy is if you know this guy is extremely tight or loose... you'd want him on the looser side here and with AK he probably would've 3bet. it's highly doubtfull he floated you
 
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I actually think your line is really solid. It looks like a steal that went wrong and then you try a cbet to pick it up there. If this player is a competent opponent he will understand that and try to pick up the pot on the turn when a scare card comes. The only questionable part of this hand is that you check/call the turn which basically alerts villain that you have a hand you want to get to showdown with and then he follows with a bet on the river.
 
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Personally I wouldn't bet the turn. You are likely folding out worse hands and only continuing against better. The way you played it lets the LAG spew off to your perceived weak checks.
 
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So bet, bet, X/C? (when the draws brick)

The Ts isn't a bad card to c/c there, so sure. I might even bet in some instances based on information not present in the OP but you want a sense of how he'll play his one pair hands not to mention draws and random floats. Sometimes it's a tarp when villain takes this line although the board isn't of much concern for you here.

One of the things your line will depend on is how often to this point you've been doing exactly what you did in this hand. That is, check/call with top pair type hands and bet out when you're FOS. This is pretty transparent to a capable player. The reason I'm mostly betting the turn is similar to what igySK said. You (should) still have a fair amount of air when you barrel and a check may raise an eyebrow for a "capable" player. By check/calling the turn he'll correctly remove both your air and likely your strong hands from your range, and go from there. It's true this particular hand is still under repped somewhat after the turn action but as we're the preflop raiser the relevance of that is mitigated. He's less likely to make a river mistake ip than you are for the most part.

Moreover, from a balance standpoint, sets and big pairs just aren't enough hand combinations here to double as much as you should be without being extremely weak overall - snap mucking whenever he plays back etc. You'd have to start cbetting fewer flops, which is problematic bvb from the small blind.

If he's a habitual floater in this spot and more specifically the type that's easy to abuse because he predictably fires every time you check the turn to him (as opposed to checking back a fair number of turns ip after calling otf) then you can certainly make an argument for checking here, but even that depends on whether you've already been check/raising the **** out of him in spots like this like you'd want to do with players of that type. There's a lot of different dynamics to bvb play but I suppose what I'm trying to convey is that things like your perceived range and how he reacts to various lines at your disposal are much more important than say a 60% AFq over w/e number of hands, 'specially bvb. Observe and then plan accordingly but be sure to bear in mind your entire range when you do so instead of one particular hand.
 
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I think I got most of that DK, I'll read over it a few more times to make sure. Thanks for taking the time to write it out.
 
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The pre flop raise seems a little loose.
 
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