$10 NLHE 6-max: kto flop two pair, board pairs river. facing bet

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saw flop

UTG ($12.82)
Hero (MP) ($10.10)
CO ($10)
Button ($12.79)
SB ($5.04)
BB ($10.30)

Preflop: Hero is MP with 10 , K
1 fold, Hero bets $0.30, CO calls $0.30, 3 folds

Flop: ($0.75) 4 , 10 , K (2 players)
Hero bets $0.60, CO calls $0.60

Turn: ($1.95) A (2 players)
Hero bets $1.20, CO calls $1.20

River: ($4.35) 4 (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $1.50, Hero

villain is a 24/18/64afq. I figured that the turn is a bet/fold spot so i did and he just flatted. River I checked to induce bets from busted draws and other Ks. Is there enough of that in his range to call this bet or do i fold?

I wouldn't be in this spot i just fold k 10.Since your there cbet flop looks fine,cbet turn looks fine.What busted draw?QJ got there diamonds got there.
Ace rag is beating you your realy beating KQ\KJ.

I disagree with turn being a b/f spot, what really can raise you that has you beat? AK, AT, sets and QJ, you have blockers for most of those and I think the most likely hand villain comes up with on the turn when he raises is Adxd which has good equity but you're still ahead. Make it more on the turn imo.

River looks like a c/f to me, like JOEB said there are no missed draws. Well you should still call getting the right price from AQ, AJ that float the flop, or perhaps Adx, but most stuff beats you. I would call if he bets $2 or less which was the case here, if he has a monster make a note he value bets small on the river

oops didnt see that the diamond came on the river

bgomez89 said:

oops didnt see that the diamond came on the river

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I've heard playing poker while colorblind is bad for your winrate ! :hmmmm:

I call a bet that small if for no other reason than the note it gives me. It's either floats Ax on K high flops or plays FDs passively IP or bets small with the nuts on river or bets small as a bluff on the river or value bets thin on the river (if he shows up with something like KQ). His bet is so small that I think you win enough from just airball bluffs to make it close to profitable and I'm willing to pay a few cents in the long term for some good info.

JOEBOB69 said:

I wouldn't be in this spot i just fold k 10.

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nit!

ComplexPlaya said:

I've heard playing poker while colorblind is bad for your winrate ! :hmmmm:

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Yeah k10o utg plus 1 is a fold for me too. Not sure why you would call this nitty.

you see UTG+1, I see Hijack

bgomez89 said:

you see UTG+1, I see Hijack

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Maybe that's why you get into so many difficult spots with most of your hands you post.

I treat utg and utg +1 as the same unless other info tells me otherwise so over playing these positions will get you called or raised more. Just a thought.

PF is fine if the conditions are right. CO/BTN being nits, blinds being fish, everyone being nitty, any combo of the above.

As played, which I think is fine, I think it's a pretty easy c/f. All his draws got there, AJ/AQ got there and never folds, and Kx/Tx aren't going to call that often, and are obviously pretty unlikely given we have KT.

If the 4d were offsuit I think we can c/c.

If the 4d were like a 6d instead I think there may be room for a thin value bet.

KardKlub said:

I treat utg and utg +1 as the same unless other info tells me otherwise so over playing these positions will get you called or raised more. Just a thought.

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Raising KTo is probably too light as a standard, but your approach is definitely flawed. Just one point for: we have 5 people to go through when we're UTG. We have 4 to go through when we're in the HJ. That's a %20 difference. That's huge, and to pass it up (ie adding extra hands to your HJ range) is just leaving money on the table.

KardKlub said:

Maybe that's why you get into so many difficult spots with most of your hands you post.

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maybe I only post hands where get into difficult spots?

bgomez89 said:

maybe I only post hands where get into difficult spots?

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Yes you do. That's my point. Even with the basic of hand reading knowledge and a pre flop game plan you can work through a hand while playing it. It just seems to me you get stuck far to often with hands that are difficult to play.

Playing a more polarised range just makes playing easier. People say they do it but rarely do. Kto is just so tricky when you hit tp and your oop.

I'm just trying to get you to think foremost. Thatway if the hand doesn't plan out like you hoped you'll have a better feeling that you played it as you intended with the minimum od difficult decisions that you often find yourself in.

Sure plans change mid through a hand but with an initial plan it can steer you to the right choice without a major headache and getting completely lost.


As for playing utg as utg+1 being flawed, chucks opinion and probably the same as everyone else, but until conditions point to other wise it keeps you out of line and oop with kto etc. If your playing all the usual starting hands in 6 max and the usual polarised range there is enough hands there to keep you busy instead of adding junk.

More polarised? What? It sounds like you think when I got into this hand I wasn't thinking about what I would do next but the only question I had was what to do on the river. KTo is a marginal hand, yes but to call it junk at 6max i think is wrong.

bgomez89 said:

More polarised? What? It sounds like you think when I got into this hand I wasn't thinking about what I would do next but the only question I had was what to do on the river. KTo is a marginal hand, yes but to call it junk at 6max i think is wrong.

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As chuck said, it depends on table conditions, if there are fish you have position on do it all the time, but if you have half-competent regs or fish behind you and they flat, you're stuck. Here's how KTo does vs a 40% range :

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 50.038% 48.04% 01.99% 4639864392 192518808.00 { 44+, A2s+, K2s+, Q4s+, J7s+, T7s+, 97s+, 87s, A3o+, K7o+, Q8o+, J8o+, T9o }
Hand 1: 49.962% 47.97% 01.99% 4632492552 192518808.00 { KTo }