$10 NLHE 6-max: KQo on the button

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888 Poker - $0.10 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4: http://www.pokertracker.com

SB: $7.96
BB: $10.00
UTG: $10.15
MP: $14.33
CO: $10.28
Hero (BTN): $11.33

SB posts SB $0.05, BB posts BB $0.10

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.15) Hero has Kh Qs

fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to $0.40, fold, BB calls $0.30

Flop: ($0.85, 2 players) Ts Kd 2d
BB checks, Hero bets $0.85, BB calls $0.85

Turn: ($2.55, 2 players) 6h
BB checks, Hero bets $1.91, BB calls $1.91

River: ($6.37, 2 players) 5h
BB checks, Hero bets $4.77, BB calls $4.77

How'd did I do?
 
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if you are Hero, you did get the max. what did he have?
 
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BB 40/27/15

Not sure why it didn't show up.

I'll say what he had later on when other have had chance to post Binza. THanks for your comments.
 
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Was kind of iffy on the river bet size since I didn't know BB's stats but considering the stats you gave it looks good
 
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I would had bet a little higher on the turn. Something like 2.2 or 2.3 so that you can take all the rest of his stack on the river. Most of the times against bad players i calculate my bet size on the turn so i can shove on the river.
 
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tbh..I think this is villain dependant.

I would be asking myself as I'm firing each street, what is villains range likely here? If he's a fish/loose donkey who's likely to call of worse Kings and middle pairs then it's fine the way it's played, which by going of your stats, seems the case..

However, if he is creative/decent, then you have to ask again, what his range is and what is he likely floating/calling each street with here.

I'd probably fire both flops/turns but bet smaller on the river, probs just over half pot btw.
 
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Ye vs a 40/27 i like how you played the hand, i think if he has a hand that beats us he will let us know by the turn if not the river. He can easily call with worse Kings here and occasionally big Jacks WP

Im guessing he turned up with some wierd hand that hit that river lol
 
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Nice value betting, and if he had the best hand by the river, meh, still nh.
 
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I would play it the same way. Looks good to me.
 
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Ye vs a 40/27 i like how you played the hand, i think if he has a hand that beats us he will let us know by the turn if not the river. He can easily call with worse Kings here and occasionally big Jacks WP

Im guessing he turned up with some wierd hand that hit that river lol
This. If he hits something on the river it is a cooler though.
 
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What questions did you have when you posted this hand? Whether you should value bet? My advice when posting hands is try to be specific on what you're struggling with so you can get the most targeted advice to the area of your game that is giving you difficulty.
 
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Thanks for the feedback guys.

@John A, I agree with you. I wanted to know if my bet sizing was good or whether I was risking too much on top pair.

Hero shows Kh Qs (One Pair, Kings) (Pre 74%, Flop 82%, Turn 93%)
BB mucks Jd Ks (One Pair, Kings) (Pre 26%, Flop 18%, Turn 7%)
Hero wins $15.12

He turned over KJ so my king kicker was good. I thought his range Kx, 10x as I'd have expected a re-raise with trips, Aces etc.

Again, thanks for the feedback.
 
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am i the only one that HATES potting the flop? i mean i realise we arent facing opponents who think much if at all, but a noob playing 1 table is going to notice pretty quickly that when we pot flop we have a hand compared to when we Cbet less when we miss....
 
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am i the only one that HATES potting the flop? i mean i realise we arent facing opponents who think much if at all, but a noob playing 1 table is going to notice pretty quickly that when we pot flop we have a hand compared to when we Cbet less when we miss....
Some yes. But most of bad players do not realise it. And the ones that notice do not find the fold button when they have something "nice". Actually this is the problem of bad players. You can extract value from them when they have something they cannot fold . So if they pay 75% of the pot they will also pay 90%. If they have a monster than they change gear and will reraise you .
Actually you know all this . So why not increase your profit a little increasing the betsize on the flop, turn and the river with 5-15%.
Sometimes even try to overbet the pot if there is a really big fish.
 
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am i the only one that HATES potting the flop? i mean i realise we arent facing opponents who think much if at all, but a noob playing 1 table is going to notice pretty quickly that when we pot flop we have a hand compared to when we Cbet less when we miss....

I noticed it too, but then thought, well if he's gonna call he's gonna call, probably fairly inelastic on that board. Vs a reg it's a different matter.
 
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am i the only one that HATES potting the flop? i mean i realise we arent facing opponents who think much if at all, but a noob playing 1 table is going to notice pretty quickly that when we pot flop we have a hand compared to when we Cbet less when we miss....

Think you're giving people far too much credit, especially when they're 40 vpip. 98% of these guys aren't paying attention looking for individual bet sizing tells on everyone at the table, so that in itself makes bigger bets worth it straight off even if 2/100 times someone clicks on... and also, they are way more likely to think big bets are us bluffing because that's what they would do, cause we'd bet smaller if we had a real hand to keep them in right? I dunno, i don't pot size bet a ton myself, more like a teenie bit less, but i definitely do it and im sure it makes fish super paranoid.
 
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all valid points and i agree.

i like the "if hes gunna call, hes gunna call" logic and am a strong believer in it but personally, i dont have the time while multitabling to distinguish whether im playing a fish or a reg and make a bet sizing accordingly (unless theyre the 40/10 type fish, but most are just TAG/LAGfish. i do bet more vs fish, but im never potting. i bet my air/draws/value hands all between 65-80% F & T and 50-70% OTR not inc the occassional ship.

iono, i agree if theyre calling 70% theyre calling 85% or w/e, but then whatre they doing with their underpairs when i bet 55-60%? surely 1to 6 tablers would notice this? prob too much credit but meh. also, i dont even want to get into the complications that drastically altering your bet sizing will make when youre in a multiway pot with both a full blown fish and a reg/tagfish/lagfish.

fwiw my concerns are for when we're cbetting our air. as stated, when the fish has something theyre calling anyway, so im not really talking about when we have them outkicked/coolered
 
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