$10 NLHE 6-max: JJ v QQ AIPF

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No info on table. This was the third time in a row id been 3bet, twice in a row this villain 3bet me, both times he was defending his BB. Am I really ever getting away from this considering? Or should I be more disciplined?

pokerstars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (5 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php

BB ($7.20)
UTG ($13.26)
MP ($12.66)
Button ($14.05)
Hero (SB) ($11.05)

Preflop: Hero is SB with J
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, J
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3 folds, Hero raises to $0.30, BB raises to $0.90, Hero raises to $2.70, BB raises to $7.20 (All-In), Hero calls $4.50

Flop: ($14.40) A
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, 7
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, 7
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(2 players, 1 all-in)

Turn: ($14.40) 2
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(2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($14.40) K
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(2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $14.40 | Rake: $0.65

Results below:
Hero had J
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, J
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(two pair, Jacks and sevens).
BB had Q
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, Q
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(two pair, Queens and sevens).
Outcome: BB won $13.75
 
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I mean this is what the standard of the table was. This happened after the JJ v QQ.

My river shove is just f**k life, flop action doesn't even mean he has a K. Still he's not really calling with worse, its a tilt shove, I know.

I mean come on ffs...

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (6 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from http://www.flopturnriver.com/

BB ($11.65)
UTG ($12)
MP ($10.84)
CO ($7.02)
Button ($11.50)
Hero (SB) ($10.33)

Preflop: Hero is SB with A
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, A
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UTG raises to $0.30, 1 fold, CO calls $0.30, 1 fold, Hero raises to $1.50, 2 folds, CO calls $1.20

Flop: ($3.40) K
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, 3
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, 5
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(2 players)
Hero checks, CO checks

Table knew I was tilting, tried to act like id missed and was kinda squeezing/anger raising pre. What flops does he bet on if hes checking these? On a plate for him to bet and yet he just doesn't?

Turn: ($3.40) 4
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(2 players)
Hero bets $2.40, CO calls $2.40

River: ($8.20) K
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(2 players)
Hero bets $6.43 (All-In), CO calls $3.12 (All-In)

Obv my shove is bad, but with him checking the flop he can easily have QQ, JJ whatever. But nah, K7 is fine pre isn't it? He had position after all...

Total pot: $14.44 | Rake: $0.65

Results below:
Hero had A
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, A
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(two pair, Aces and Kings).
CO had K
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, 7
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(three of a kind, Kings).
Outcome: CO won $13.79
 
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I probably would play the first hand the same as you.

As for the second hand...do you hate money? Just bet the flop. It's even better if the table thinks your angry and tilting. Those players go apeshit and bet. Not squeeze and play passively...
 
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personally in my opinion i am confused in every way why in gods grace you pushed with JJ at the micro stakes especially from the blinds. I don't care what this fool had been playing before in the previous and I think he basically set you up to lose on that hand. I think if you would have called and seen the flop. Then i think the all in shove with that A on the board and 77 would have easily made him fold the hand. If he didnt fold the hand then he is probably a bad player or he had a good read on you. On the second hand once the second king came i would have tried to use pot control. Then he would have told you and gave you an idea what type of hand he may have. Now this is in my opinion and it is not the right answer or wrong answer. This is how i would have played it. Read Blackrain79 on drag the bar on crushing the microstakes and it will give you a better outline on stratedgies that you can use to prevent yourself from losing a lot of money.
 
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personally in my opinion i am confused in every way why in gods grace you pushed with JJ at the micro stakes especially from the blinds. I don't care what this fool had been playing before in the previous and I think he basically set you up to lose on that hand. I think if you would have called and seen the flop. Then i think the all in shove with that A on the board and 77 would have easily made him fold the hand. If he didnt fold the hand then he is probably a bad player or he had a good read on you. On the second hand once the second king came i would have tried to use pot control. Then he would have told you and gave you an idea what type of hand he may have. Now this is in my opinion and it is not the right answer or wrong answer. This is how i would have played it. Read Blackrain79 on drag the bar on crushing the microstakes and it will give you a better outline on stratedgies that you can use to prevent yourself from losing a lot of money.

Lol. Im not stacking off with JJ normally, just freak incidents like this. What do you mean "especially from the blinds", did you read what I said before the HH?

You would shove onto an A77 flop with JJ, having called a 3bet? How would that fold out a short stacked QQ? AK or AQ doesnt shove there, ever. Ax is also in his range for 3betting.
 
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I probably would play the first hand the same as you.

As for the second hand...do you hate money? Just bet the flop. It's even better if the table thinks your angry and tilting. Those players go apeshit and bet. Not squeeze and play passively...

Yeah I should have bet the flop, I didn't have any info on villain though, if id known he was a fish I would have. Any decent player surely always bets that flop when checked to in a 3bet pot though, whether they hold a K or not? Knowing im tilted as well I could have complete air?

Any line thats not obvious seems to get punished at the micros. Im getting better at playing like a robot though, alls well.
 
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1st hand is fine given the dynamic.

2nd hand is a HUGE mistake not to bet this flop. Then bet turn and x/c or x/f river.

As played I don't mind your shove since you underepped your hand and he could have 99-QQ. Idk how often he calls this shove with those hands though.
 
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Yeah I should have bet the flop, I didn't have any info on villain though, if id known he was a fish I would have. Any decent player surely always bets that flop when checked to in a 3bet pot though, whether they hold a K or not? Knowing im tilted as well I could have complete air?

Any line thats not obvious seems to get punished at the micros. Im getting better at playing like a robot though, alls well.

Not a weak K, villain seems to know about showdown value and pot control. That is why he checked. Why he called pre with that hand? You said it yourself you were making it seem like you were tilted and maybe he thought you would stack off if he hit. With that said I still think his play pre is awful, he should of folded before that even got to you.
 
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just because he 3bet you a couple times, doesn't mean anything, he could of either legitimately picked up cards or he's probably just getting a feel for you at the table, you'd need a larger sample size to figure out if he's capable of 3betting and then 5betting light. I'd rather be shoving JJ as opposed to calling off a shove.

In second hand if table knew you were tilting, just do exactly what they expect you to do, bet bet bet, bet big on flop, shove turn to blanks, max value.
 
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No info on table. This was the third time in a row id been 3bet, twice in a row this villain 3bet me, both times he was defending his BB. Am I really ever getting away from this considering? Or should I be more disciplined?
It's not much, but you do have more than no info on BB due to his previous actions and his stack size being less than a full buyin.
 
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