re: Poker & $10 NLHE 6-max: JJ in 3Bet Pot SB vs BB
Originally Posted by c9h13no3
Here's the "Facing a 3-bet, can I 4-bet?" chart and the article it comes from. It's only good for 100 big blind stacks, and it's just the break-even point. So calling or 4-bet/folding could be a more profitable line.
3-bet percentage you need to be facing in order to 4-bet/call off
* KK+: Good against any range
* QQ: vs 3% or higher (3% is AK, JJ+, 40 combos total)
* JJ: vs 6.5% or higher
* TT: vs 8.5% or higher
* 99: vs 10.5% or higher
* 88: vs 12.5% or higher
* 77: vs 14% or higher
* AKs: vs 3% or higher (AK, JJ+, 40 combos total)
* AQs: vs 8% or higher
* AJs: vs 13% or higher
* AKo: vs 5% or higher (AK, JJ+, plus 22% bluffs)
* AQo: vs 9% or higher
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I liked the article, as it quantifies what I thought intuitively. The table implies there is an answer but it really just gives broad ranges. In Hero's case the table implies he should 4 bet the table. When dealing with JJ, I like to remember the 50/50 break range is AA, KK, QQ, JJ, TT, 99, AKs, AK, AQs, AQ, AJs, & KQs or about 5.5%. Its 45/55 if you take the TT and 99 out.
That said, do you want the variance of flipping against that range? If not you can fold. It's not good, but least bad.
As played, we see the line often taken, the not quite right middle road; calling hoping for a low flop. The problem is when we get the hoped for low flop we're still almost flipping at 55/45. When the K or Q comes, we're now a 40/60 dog. An A makes us a 20/80 dog.
Calling the flop is putting you money in bad.