£10 NLHE 6-max: Did I overbet the river?

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This hand could have been the biggest I have ever won but I guess I got a bit greedy in the end? Or do you suppose I did the right thing? After all I called the 3 bet only because of how deep this hand was.

iPoker - £0.10 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 124.5 BB (VPIP: 20.02, PFR: 4.53, 3Bet Preflop: 1.39, hands: 1,724)
SB: 263.3 BB (VPIP: 26.04, PFR: 17.16, 3Bet Preflop: 5.08, Hands: 171)
BB: 100 BB (VPIP: 17.39, PFR: 13.22, 3Bet Preflop: 6.28, Hands: 655)
UTG: 51.9 BB (VPIP: 23.98, PFR: 14.29, 3Bet Preflop: 4.84, Hands: 199)
Hero (MP): 359 BB
CO: 88.5 BB (VPIP: 33.99, PFR: 22.77, 3Bet Preflop: 6.78, Hands: 204)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has J:heart: K:spade:

fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, fold, fold, SB raises to 9 BB, fold, Hero calls 6 BB

Flop: (19 BB, 2 players) 5:club: 9:spade: Q:diamond:
SB checks, Hero checks

Turn: (19 BB, 2 players) T:club:
SB bets 13.3 BB, Hero raises to 41.2 BB, SB calls 27.9 BB

River: (101.4 BB, 2 players) 4:club:
SB bets 50 BB, Hero raises to 226.2 BB, fold

Hero mucks J:heart: K:spade: (Straight, King High)
Hero wins 364.2 BB

I was putting him on QQ and really thought he wouldn't fold. He could possibly have had AKcc and in that case I was ready to have my biggest loss in a hand. He did tank a little on the river but not too much so maybe it wasn't QQ. And perhaps he would have 3 bet me on the turn with QQ. His bet on the river just looked so strong to me despite my raise on the turn so in the end I guess I did the right thing. Still very much interested in hearing feedback on my river bet.
 
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are you dismissing AA/KK from his range? to me this looks like an AA/KK played really badly, i make that river 120 because flatting turn then leading out is really weird, looks like a funky value/blocker bet to me.
 
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Nah u played it brilliantly ... You had to raise a bit heavy once he lead out on the river considering he got raised on the turn. Actually i was surprised to see him lead out there, yes i guess he had a set and was hoping to extract to value. Or some random defensive bet with 2 pair or even a bluff attempt. Nothing wrong with the sizing of raise.
 
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are you dismissing AA/KK from his range? to me this looks like an AA/KK played really badly, i make that river 120 because flatting turn then leading out is really weird, looks like a funky value/blocker bet to me.

Ya I am dismissing those only because if he really had AA/KK then its just such a poorly played hand. He probably wanted to check raise me on the flop but that didn't work out for him not to mention its not a good play with such a deep stack anyways.

Then his over pair feels weak when I raise the turn so that's fine he calls. But then he should simply have checked the river and I really wouldn't make an enormous raise in that case, prolly 70% of the pot which is just a little over what he bet and he would have gone to showdown without going broke.

Folding QQ on that board really is pretty tough. Maybe it was a poorly played AA/KK.

Or I suppose it can also be AK since he missed the flop, had a gutshot on the turn he couldn't let go off and then tried a weak bluff on the river.

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River was action killer. Not much you can do. Still. I do not think a shove on the river was required. As played it looked like he cought more outs on the turn or he had a poorly played set.
Maybe the size of the reraise on the turn a little bigger. Close to 75% of the pot.
 
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I agree you got to excited and greedy at the end.

But I do in agreement with the river raise but give an amount he would call.

I would raise around +-$150.
 
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The river is not as big of a mistake as calling a 3bet from someone with 5% 3bet with KJo, hell I think opening with KJo from MP is pretty debatable even.
 
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The river is not as big of a mistake as calling a 3bet from someone with 5% 3bet with KJo, hell I think opening with KJo from MP is pretty debatable even.
I was absolutely crushing this table as you can see from my stack. KJo is one of those hands that I would sometimes open and sometimes won't. I don't play a strict "yes or no" game.

And there was nothing wrong with calling a 6 BB raise IP because of how deep his stack was. While I didn't win it all but nevertheless won 100 BB.
 
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The river is not as big of a mistake as calling a 3bet from someone with 5% 3bet with KJo, hell I think opening with KJo from MP is pretty debatable even.

This.
 
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As played, I don't think raising smaller on the river would make much difference. Villain has already put 100BB in the pot, and even just a minraise from you on the river has him putting about two thirds of his stack in - if he's willing to call that he's probably willing to call for the whole lot.
 
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