$10 NLHE 6-max: How to make most $ w/ Top 2

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I was thinking about this hand- my river check was probably too nitty. Bet sizing strategies here? Especially for the turn?
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HAND 1

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NL Holdem $0.1(BB)
SB ($10.39) [VPIP: 12.5% | PFR: 6.3% | AGG: 33.3% | 3-Bet: 9.1% | hands: 33]
BB ($12.14) [VPIP: 26.5% | PFR: 22.4% | AGG: 26.7% | 3-Bet: 30.8% | Hands: 50]
UTG ($9.9) [VPIP: 33.9% | PFR: 3.6% | AGG: 50% | 3-Bet: 0% | Hands: 57]
HERO ($12.86) [VPIP: 29.5% | PFR: 25% | AGG: 40.8% | 3-Bet: 5.7% | Hands: 1957]
CO ($6.63) [VPIP: 60% | PFR: 9% | AGG: 17% | 3-Bet: 2.6% | Hands: 102]
BTN ($12.99) [VPIP: 21.5% | PFR: 14.2% | AGG: 27.5% | 3-Bet: 5.7% | Hands: 323]

Dealt to Hero: Q A

UTG Folds, HERO Raises To $0.35, CO Calls $0.35, BTN Folds, SB Folds, BB Calls $0.25

Hero SPR on Flop: [5.71 effective]
Flop ($1.10): Q 3 A
BB Checks, HERO Bets $1.04 (Rem. Stack: 11.47), CO Folds, BB Calls $1.04 (Rem. Stack: 10.75)

Turn ($3.18): Q 3 A J
BB Bets $2.30 (Rem. Stack: 8.45), HERO Calls $2.30 (Rem. Stack: 9.17)

River ($7.78): Q 3 A J T
BB Checks, HERO Checks

BB shows: A J

HERO wins: $7.35

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Another hand I played poorly!

Here's another one where I spike top 2 on the turn. Should I fold to a small raise like that on the flop? From a fish that's almost never a bluff.
As played, do we raise turn? GII on River?
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HAND 2


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NL Holdem $0.1(BB)
UTG ($11) [VPIP: 22.2% | PFR: 11.1% | AGG: 0% | 3-Bet: 0% | Hands: 9]
HJ ($9.49) [VPIP: 66.7% | PFR: 16.7% | AGG: 100% | 3-Bet: 0% | Hands: 6]
CO ($11.4) [VPIP: 24.7% | PFR: 22.1% | AGG: 33.3% | 3-Bet: 0% | Hands: 79]
HERO ($10.4) [VPIP: 29.5% | PFR: 25% | AGG: 40.8% | 3-Bet: 5.7% | Hands: 1957]
SB ($8.4) [VPIP: 60% | PFR: 9% | AGG: 17% | 3-Bet: 2.6% | Hands: 102]
BB ($10) [VPIP: 21.5% | PFR: 14.2% | AGG: 27.5% | 3-Bet: 5.7% | Hands: 323]

Dealt to Hero: A 9

UTG Folds, HJ Calls $0.10, CO Folds, HERO Raises To $0.45, SB Folds, BB Folds, HJ Calls $0.35

Hero SPR on Flop: [8.61 effective]
Flop ($1.05): 7 A 4
HJ Bets $0.10 (Rem. Stack: 8.94), HERO Raises To $0.42 (Rem. Stack: 9.53), HJ Raises To $0.74 (Rem. Stack: 8.30), HERO Calls $0.32 (Rem. Stack: 9.21)

Turn ($2.53): 7 A 4 9
HJ Bets $1.79 (Rem. Stack: 6.51), HERO Calls $1.79 (Rem. Stack: 7.42)

River ($6.11): 7 A 4 9 Q
HJ Bets $4.34 (Rem. Stack: 2.17), HERO Calls $4.34 (Rem. Stack: 3.08)

HJ shows: A J

HERO wins: $13.97
 
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In both hands I am just shipping it in on the turn. We have top two, and there are very few hands, we lose to. So lets rock and roll now rather than let some bad river card roll off, that either complete his draw or kill our action. In the second hand I also bet larger on the flop. Its not ideal, that he 3-bet, but with the price, you are getting, you have to call.
 
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Agree with fundiver on both hands. First hand, after his turn play i thought AJ or AT. I ruled out a top pair + flush draw as I figured that would probably raise the flop. Also possibly the guy turns over JT or KJ suited for a flush draw, but really his hand is pretty face-up at this point and I doubt he's folding. Once in a great while, he'll have 3s...but AJ/AT are so much more common that this is for sure a jam.

Second hand, I always find these min bets and min raises so weird. I also find the light 3bet to be a very weird play. For starters, I don't think this guy is ever bluff in this spot. On the flop I'm putting him on some sort of Ax or set, I don't think he'll ever play 56 this way considering your range and that's his only bluff. Since a set is a very real possibility, the turn is your decision point. I think all Ax is calling a turn raise/jam at these stakes, especially if it's a worse 2 pair. If you're willing to call a big river bet, better to stick the money in on the turn rather than have a weird river card roll off. If the board was more wet with more potential bluffs in play, I think calling or a small raise might be a better play on the turn and let the guy bluff it all off on the river. A jam in that spot takes away his ability to donk bluff it all off.
 
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In the first hand he could also have KT, that turned a straight. But given that he called almost a pot sized bet on the flop, I really only expect to see KsTs exactly. If he called a potter with just a gutshot and then nailed it on the turn, we are surely crushing him in the long run, so whatever. Just pay the man his money.

In the second hand a minimum donk bet from a fish is very rarely a strong hand, and it should just be ignored. I cant help thinking, that Heros small raise kind of induced the silly click-it-back 3-bet. If Hero had raised to 70c, chances are, he would just have called, and the whole hand would be a lot less weird. Then Hero just bet turn, jam river, and likely get the last 2$ from Villain.
 
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Honestly, I like your river check. You could bet/fold to a raise, but I hate having to fold in that spot with 2 pr
 
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Honestly, I like your river check. You could bet/fold to a raise, but I hate having to fold in that spot with 2 pr

In hand one the issue is not raising on the turn, when he decide to lead (donk bet) into us. We have the best hand literally always, and if he is bluffing, he surely has some kind of draw. So why not charge him to chase that draw, and get more money in against a hand like AJ, before some crappy river card roll off.

We are a bit deep here, so jamming the turn is perhaps a bit of an overplay. But then we can make it 5$, and with a bit of luck he stick the rest in himself. If he just call, its 13$ in the middle and 6$ behind, and then we just make a decision, when that bad card roll off and put out a 1-liner to a straight. If we think, we can not jam for value, we just check behind, and at least we got that extra 3$ out of him on the turn.
 
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