$10 NLHE 6-max: How do you play this flop and turn?

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Jonny03UK

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So I think I played the flop correct here but I also think it may be up for debate? Vs the check-raise how do you play it?

The turn card is obviously a great card for me and even better he bets into me. So what action do you take next? Do you raise him or call and wait for some river action?

My main reaction to this situation is to raise but I'm unsure here. I'm not sure what to put a 16/8 on exactly. Maybe an overpair like TT or a pocket pair that has hit trips on this flop. If I raise, might I scare him off and possibly miss out on value?

Basically I just want some ideas on how people would play this spot!


IPoker Network $10.00 No Limit Hold'em - 5 players - View hand 2139315
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UTG: $10.51 - VPIP: 19, PFR: 15, 3B: 4, AF: 2.8, hands: 5675
Hero (CO): $11.00 - VPIP: 19, PFR: 14, 3B: 4, AF: 2.4, Hands: 68498
BTN: $10.00 - VPIP: 25, PFR: 13, 3B: 0, AF: NaN, Hands: 8
SB: $11.68 - VPIP: 35, PFR: 7, 3B: 1, AF: 2.1, Hands: 842
BB: $10.16 - VPIP: 16, PFR: 8, 3B: 4, AF: Infinity, Hands: 62

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is CO with 7
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1 fold, Hero raises to $0.30, 1 fold, SB calls $0.25, BB calls $0.20

Flop: ($0.90) 7
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9
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4
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(3 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets $0.60, SB folds, BB raises to $1.60, Hero calls $1

Turn: ($4.10) 8
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BB bets $2.70, Hero ??
 
Jackle43

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Im raising that turn and if he comes over the top im stacking, we have the nut flush im playing for stacks. Im guessing he has a worst flush, trips, possible slow played overpairs but im trying to get it in here.
even re raise the flop, you have a pair with the nutflush draw. Im happy to get it in on the flop, you have great equity against most hands in that spot
 
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I like flatting. I think we get the best value from that here. Unless we know villain will be spazzy given our flop smooth call.
 
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I like flatting. I think we get the best value from that here. Unless we know villain will be spazzy given our flop smooth call.

But if we play it passively and the board pairs and Villain acts real strong what do we do? Especially putting trips in his range here
 
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But if we play it passively and the board pairs and Villain acts real strong what do we do? Especially putting trips in his range here

what does a 16/8 do when we re-raise that turn? and against us as a 19/14?
 
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nope the call works here because according to pot and stack sizes on the river you give the villain a last chance to bluff at it and his remaining stack won't even be a pot sized bet. If you raise him you are likely folding out any bluffs and possibly some straights.
 
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If you call the turn bet, the pot will be about $10 and villain will have about $5 left. If you call the turn and the villain is going to make any bet at all on the river, they will probably just jam.

Now, if they're bluffing and you raise the turn, they are gonna fold. If they're bluffing and you just call, they might throw in the towel on the river, or they might bluff off the rest of their chips.

A set is in their range. The big blind got a great price on calling a 3x raise preflop, and could literally have anything. J10 for a straight, to inferior diamonds, or a set.

Jamming on the turn could be losing value, allowing the villain to fold and keep $5 back. However, if you just call, and the board pairs on the river and they push all-in, you've gotta make a decision, because I think they could be doing that with anything. Or they could have a boat.

So after all that, I don't know. A min raise on the turn? If they hit a big piece of that board (set/straight), they might still call, and at that point there is so much in the pot, and if the board pairs and villain jams on the river, you are getting much better pot odds ($3 into $17 pot) for a +EV river call.
 
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I say call, we have position, and as other said, he might barrel something weak on river, even a bluff, if he has a set and hits the river for a full boat so be it, he is calling all in on turn anyway, might as well take the change he might barrel river with worst.
 
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I flat the flop, generalizing a player based on their stats isn't an exact science but nearly all 16/8s are going to be very passive postflop and it's at least alot more accurate than using AF. So I think his range on the flop is mostly sets, and a few slowplayed overpairs or flush draws bluffs will be pretty rare.

I raise the turn, sets, weaker flush draws and perhaps even overpairs with a diamond aren't folding. Our line looks incredibly obvious but when most his range can't fold it has to be done and we really can't allow a free card when there are 11 cards that put sets ahead and 22 that make one card flushes or straight that will likely kill our action.
 
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