$10 NLHE 6-max: Flopped set IP facing turn cr on A-high board

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What do you put villain on, thought process during hand?

No reads, but have to expect decent-ish player. Considered a pf 3b but we were deep. C/c flop could mean slowplay or Ax.

Villain c/r turn, do we auto-raise here?

River I elect to only call, being 50/50 vs his 2p or higher set.

Line check overall pls, any comments welcome.



Seat: 1 Hero ($18.95) Dealer
Seat: 2 Player 2 ($14.99) Small Blind
Seat: 3 Player 3 ($13.06) Big Blind
Seat: 4 Player 4 ($12.82)
Seat: 5 Player 5 ($10)
Seat: 6 Player 6 ($19.06)

Dealt to Hero
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Preflop (Pot:0.15)
Player 4 FOLD
Player 5 FOLD
Player 6 RAISE $0.35
Hero CALL $0.35
Player 2 FOLD
Player 3 FOLD

Flop(Pot: $0.85)
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Player 6 CHECK
Hero BET $0.7
Player 6 CALL $0.7

Turn(Pot: $2.25)
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Player 6 CHECK
Hero BET $1.7
Player 6 RAISE $3.4
Hero CALL $1.7

River(Pot: $9.05)
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Player 6 BET $8.6
Hero CALL $8.6
 
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what could he have that got u beat i see the Q10 of hearts, or a 10 7. i would go the same line as u. i dont like those full pot bets 60% is enough.
 
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what could he have that got u beat i see the Q10 of hearts, or a 10 7. i would go the same line as u. i dont like those full pot bets 60% is enough.
Exactly. The turn raise signals a flop slowplay (set or maaaybe 2p) or he got there with QT, but that should fold the flop. Don't think he c/r turn with a draw, not at these stakes.

Happy to hear any other comments on line, how should I have played?

Is there any way we can fold river? I hate calling this pot size bet.
 
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At those stakes, a flop check/call then turn check/min raise is a monster about 97.84% of the time unless the player is a random donk button clicker. Then all bets are off. Think you played it fine.He could have AJ, but it's usually a super narrow range when they take this kind of line (like sets/straights, etc...).
 
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At those stakes, a flop check/call then turn check/min raise is a monster about 97.84% of the time unless the player is a random donk button clicker. Then all bets are off. Think you played it fine.He could have AJ, but it's usually a super narrow range when they take this kind of line (like sets/straights, etc...).
Thanks! I doubt I can fold to the turn min-raise, call is best? And I should consider a river fold?
 
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I would say he had a big pair pre possibly aces or kings.
 
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Thanks! I doubt I can fold to the turn min-raise, call is best? And I should consider a river fold?

Yeah, I wouldn't fold either street without a really solid read. He might show up with AJ/A9 a % of the time and he might over value AK and got lucky on the river (or so he thinks). It's one of those hands where almost always at these stakes someone is going to show up with a monster, but sometimes you'll have someone over valuing their hand. If I had a ton of stats on the guy, and was really passive, I'd consider folding the river, but not the turn.
 
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Looks like a straight, and no he doesn't fold gutshot on the flop, they don't even do it at 25NL.

Agree on calling turn, river is iffy unless you know him well.
 
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If your opponent had QhTh, would it really be best to fold on the flop? He might put you on a mediocre ace no better than AJ or a set that hit, and considering your aggressive flop bet, there could be enough implied odds to justify it...? right? He wouldnt really have to worry about a better flush/ straight at all

I dunno, I guess im just caught up on your opponents decisions, let me know what y'all think
 
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If your opponent had QhTh, would it really be best to fold on the flop? He might put you on a mediocre ace no better than AJ or a set that hit, and considering your aggressive flop bet, there could be enough implied odds to justify it...? right? He wouldnt really have to worry about a better flush/ straight at all

I dunno, I guess im just caught up on your opponents decisions, let me know what y'all think
I like your reasoning.

However, wouldn't QhTh bet the flop being the preflop aggressor? If he decided to check for whatever reason, I agree on his call.
 
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Pre-flop 3-bet to just less than 3x his raise (~$0.90) is fine when this deep surely, you're narrowing villains range to upper pocket pairs and AK, which are all good when you consider you're trying for a set? He's not 4-betting with QQ, JJ or AK/AQ but may (and often will at this limit) flat call, and if you were up against AA or KK you probably got away cheaply by folding to the 4-bet. Set mining with the 3-bet would therefore be really profitable because you make it a lot more likely you're winning nearly 200BB when he pays you off with a QQ/JJ overpair, or A/K TPTK on dry boards.

Obviously the flop is fine.

Re-raise the re-raise on the turn (don't hold me to this!), because I find at these limits that often regs will re-raise their draws against other regs (he might have 67s-JTs in his range?), but you could fold these out with a re-raise. With no read though I guess the call is fine.

After he takes the lead in aggression on the turn, with him firing again maybe you could fold, but if he's not looked at the pot size compared to your stacks then this might suggest he could be fishy (he obviously hasn't because his bet size leaves you with very litle behind so he may as well put it all in, but he doesn't despite it being not much more than a pot sized raise - maybe it's just me that thinks this is weird but if he really has it would he not want to play for complete stacks here on the river?) so you should force him all in if you're going to call anyway.
 
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