$10 NLHE 6-max: Extracting Value top set

50 hands 20/16

How do I extract the most value?? I think betting the flop will only get a fold...

Party Poker - $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Holdem (6 players)
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SB: $10
BB: $15.89
UTG Hero: $10
MP: $8.82 (sitting out)
CO: $20.82
BTN: $10.27

Pre-flop: ($0.15) Hero is UTG and dealt
Hero raises to $0.22, 2 folds, SB calls $0.17, BB folds

Flop: ($0.54) (3 players)
SB checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($0.54) (3 players)
SB checks, Hero ???

Bet-Bet-Shove.While your tring to figure out how to get value your keeping the pot small with the best hand.And letting villain get free cards to draw out on your one pair hand.

Why only 2.2bbs for the open pre? Bet flop. Bet turn. Bet river.

Bet half pot on the flop just like you would if you were c betting. I dont know why you wouldnt bet this flop.

Cafeman31 said:

Why only 2.2bbs for the open pre? Bet flop. Bet turn. Bet river.

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didn't see the 2.2bb UTG. Wouldn't have bothered me if you were on the button (still would like at least 3x for value).But UTG your begging limpers in the pot while leaving you oop during the hand.

JOEBOB69 said:

Bet-Bet-Shove.While your tring to figure out how to get value your keeping the pot small with the best hand.And letting villain get free cards to draw out on your one pair hand.

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Bet-Bet-Shove

villian will call with pairs, sets, 8x, floats as the board is superrrrrrrrrrr dry and is the classic floating board and its possible for Ax too

Checking flop is fine, since you're IP against what looks like a fairly aggressive player on a dry board. Now bet 70% of the pot.

Hate the preflop sizing but I think the postflop check is OK. I'd probably bet .45 on the turn.

Why you guys checking the flop? Yeah the hand is a lock, but to get more money in I prefer a bet. No one folds to a cbet on an Axx board and everyone makes a cbet on an Axx board. TBH my spidey senses would defo be alerted if some UTG PFR dude checked this flop!

Maybe bet flop/check turn/bet river would be a more 'sneaky' line?

Cafeman31 said:

Why you guys checking the flop? Yeah the hand is a lock, but to get more money in I prefer a bet. No one folds to a cbet on an Axx board and everyone makes a cbet on an Axx board. TBH my spidey senses would defo be alerted if some UTG PFR dude checked this flop!

Maybe bet flop/check turn/bet river would be a more 'sneaky' line?

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If you were UTG with KK/QQ here, you would check back this flop right? So if our aggro friend in the SB has any hand reading abilities he may just decide to take the pot away on the turn after we check the flop.

OK.. I get that bet sizing PF is a thing. I pot AA here and I pot 89s here, I 3/4 AA here and I 3/4 89s here all UTG (89 being the alternative to AA here) , pretty much 80/20 and that is why the bet sizing here is as it is. In this case I decided to 3/4 pot UTG. Yea maybe not, but it was a decision I made PF...

JOEBOB69 said:

Bet-Bet-Shove.While your tring to figure out how to get value your keeping the pot small with the best hand.And letting villain get free cards to draw out on your one pair hand.

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Wtf i swore i read HH of you haveing AK lol.Still i like bet-bet-shove o.

Open bigger pre. I didn't understand your explanation of why you only opened 2.2x.

Big hand, big pot. Forget balance.

4x pf. Flop is fine, but I generally just bet unless he pounces on weakness a lot. As played, lots of draws turn, possibility of Jx, just bet for value.

brank said:

Bet half pot on the flop just like you would if you were c betting. I dont know why you wouldnt bet this flop.

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Because it's a completely dry flop that SB has a close to zero chance of having hit while also being OOP. Unless we're lucky enough to catch him with the one remaining Ace, he's going to invariably fold whereas if we let him see a turn (a) he could pick up a draw or make a second best hand that we can get value from, or (b) he could bluff at it because we seem weak. There is no reason to bet the flop unless you have a read on SB as being incredibly drunk or something.

Anyway, raise more pf, flop is fine, pot the turn, like pretty much everyone already said.

probably bet something ghey like 22 cents on the flop.

Dorkus Malorkus said:

Because it's a completely dry flop that SB has a close to zero chance of having hit while also being OOP. Unless we're lucky enough to catch him with the one remaining Ace, he's going to invariably fold whereas if we let him see a turn (a) he could pick up a draw or make a second best hand that we can get value from, or (b) he could bluff at it because we seem weak. There is no reason to bet the flop unless you have a read on SB as being incredibly drunk or something.

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There's also the argument that the majority of a flatting range from the blinds vs EP is (or "should" be) pairs. Pairs that flat the flop often once, and unfortunately fold turn, but when we check back, often fold to a delayed cbet on bad turn cards.

For the most part though we do have the deck crippled, and there's also the argument that those pairs that might flat the flop could bluff the turn and/or river, but I tend to think that most taggy micro players just try to call flop or even turn and get to showdown rather than turn their hands into a bluff on turn/river.

I think as a generalization, the taggier the player, the more we should be cbetting here, and the looser the player, the more we should check back since they have so many more SCs/random unpaired cards that can turn lots of draws and pairs and 'hit' the flop a lot less.

/nitpicking

What is your table image?

I generally would say because of the dry flop and your position the check is the right call. This allows villain to catch up, maybe make 2 pair, shows weakness on our part, and can open up a chance to have villain bluff. On turn I would bet 3/4-pot bet.

Now, if you have an aggressive image AND c-bet 100% AND villain is sharp enough to catch on to this then yes go ahead and c-bet the flop. at these stakes however those are a lot of ANDs.

If you want to get more value raise more preflop. 2-3x is standard but dont be afraid to making variations in your raises of 5x.... However this takes some time setting up so if you have been consistent with your raises stay with 2-3x.

fletchdad said:

OK.. I get that bet sizing PF is a thing. I pot AA here and I pot 89s here, I 3/4 AA here and I 3/4 89s here all UTG (89 being the alternative to AA here) , pretty much 80/20 and that is why the bet sizing here is as it is. In this case I decided to 3/4 pot UTG. Yea maybe not, but it was a decision I made PF...

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Which effects your SPR postflop