$10 NLHE 6-max: Does villain ever fold his range here?

$10 NL HE 6-max: Does villain ever fold his range here?

Villian Stats (VPIP/PFR/AF): 30/9/2.2

I probably had the maniac table image here-- lots of c/r-ing, some 3-betting, my VPIP was running about 37 through about 50 hands. After my flop bet, I put my villain on a pocket pair, likely 66-88. An overpair was somewhat of a possibility, but imo he was playing way too passively to have an overpair at this point. What else do people put villain on here? Can we make villain fold my described range/ your estimated range?

full tilt poker $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 454894
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UTG: $9.95
MP: $11.65
CO: $2.15
BTN: $11.18
Hero (SB): $10.16
BB: $12.11

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is SB with K :club: A :club:
2 folds, CO raises to $0.25, BTN calls $0.25, Hero raises to $1.25, 2 folds, BTN calls $1

Flop: ($2.85) 9 :spade: 2 :spade: 9 :heart: (2 players)
Hero bets $2, BTN calls $2

Turn: ($6.85) T :heart: (2 players)
Hero ???

You have a maniac image, so the few things your opponent could fold to a second barrel (2x, 33-88) he now will call with anyways. All flush draws, nines, and things he floated with a ten all call as well, and he folds all his random air that we beat.

Im not too good about ranges, but I think the pairs shouldnt just be limited to 66-88, I would include pretty much any pocket pair below KK, maybe QQ. Im assuming the villains stats are also over 50 hands, you should pay attention to how often he calls raises, vs just limping into a pot, and maybe what his aggression factor is. If he is a calling station, your job on calling his range gets a lot tougher.

lupefan said:

Im not too good about ranges, but I think the pairs shouldnt just be limited to 66-88, I would include pretty much any pocket pair below KK, maybe QQ. Im assuming the villains stats are also over 50 hands, you should pay attention to how often he calls raises, vs just limping into a pot, and maybe what his aggression factor is. If he is a calling station, your job on calling his range gets a lot tougher.

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That is still a part of his range, but imo with QQ+ (sometimes JJ), he's either 3-betting the first villain, 4-betting me preflop, or raising me on the flop. I mean, he could be letting me hang myself, but I doubt it. So I'm more inclined to put him on a medium pair than a big pair.

His flop calling range is a lot wider than just pps. Fds are still in his range
and if he's stationy a double barrel never gets a fold. IMO betting only gets us value out of fds but just donates to the rest of his range unless you plan on 3 barreling the river. Also like c9 mentioned folds out all his air thAt were ahead of.

Anybody like check/calling flop and check/folding turn?

I like ck-calling both the flop and turn. Given that he didn't 4bet pre his strong hands that are going to want to barrel for value are pretty limited so he is really polarizing his range towards strong value or bluffs that your ace high will beat. Most players can't jam the river as a bluff so by that point I think u can fold even though you are getting a huge price.

polakpoker4 said:

His flop calling range is a lot wider than just pps. Fds are still in his range
and if he's stationy a double barrel never gets a fold. IMO betting only gets us value out of fds but just donates to the rest of his range unless you plan on 3 barreling the river. Also like c9 mentioned folds out all his air thAt were ahead of.

Anybody like check/calling flop and check/folding turn?

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Yeah you're probably right, he could have just called with some FD's. In retrospect, c/c-ing the flop and c/f-ing the turn as you suggested may have worked better (maybe that's just because of the way the hand played out). I assume we should fire the river if he checks the turn behind?

Anyway, results of the hand: I have enough for a pot bet on the turn, so I jam and get called by 88. River was a blank. I thought he might figure me for an overpair and muck. Instead he correctly figured me for air, lol. Next time I think I'll think about slowing down after I whiff out of position, especially where my plan was just to take it down PF.

The reason I like the check/call line is because he might bet air on the flop when checked to and you're ahead of all his air so you called ahead. The added bonus is if a K or A hit the turn and he has air, he'll almost definitely barrel in which case it's a an easy. If turn is like a 2 or 3 and villain fires again you can give him credit for a pair or at least some kind of draw that you might not be very far ahead of.

As far as your turn shove, you're either repping an overpair or some kind of draw/air so villain can make the call quite with his pp. Check/cAlling wouldve kept his air in the hand. Defintely sucks missing completely with AK in the 3bet pot lol