$10 NLHE 6-max: could I have avoided this?

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yanivshe

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I have to point out that if the villain would have shoved my raise on the flop I would have probably folded . but when he called , I thought Im pot commited and shoved.
should I have check/fold the turn ?

PokerStars - $0.10 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

UTG: 99 BB (VPIP: 30.00, PFR: 20.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, hands: 31)
CO: 159.9 BB (VPIP: 47.37, PFR: 31.58, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 21)
BTN: 113.3 BB (VPIP: 22.73, PFR: 18.18, 3Bet Preflop: 13.51, Hands: 92)
SB: 183.8 BB (VPIP: 17.95, PFR: 13.72, 3Bet Preflop: 2.80, Hands: 753)
Hero (BB): 125.3 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has K:club: K:diamond:

UTG calls 1 BB, fold, BTN raises to 4 BB, fold, Hero raises to 14 BB, UTG calls 13 BB, fold

Flop: (32.5 BB, 2 players) 8:spade: 2:diamond: T:diamond:
Hero bets 25 BB, UTG calls 25 BB

Turn: (82.5 BB, 2 players) Q:heart:
Hero bets 79 BB, UTG calls 60 BB and is all-in

River: (202.5 BB, 2 players) 8:diamond:

Hero shows K:club: K:diamond: (Two Pair, Kings and Eights) (Pre 81%, Flop 13%, Turn 5%)
UTG shows 8:heart: 8:club: (Four of a Kind, Eights) (Pre 19%, Flop 87%, Turn 95%)
UTG wins 193.4 BB


also another hand which I wasnt sure what to do there with my QQ . how do you suggest playing this hand in this spot ? villain didn't seem to be a fish at all :

PokerStars - $0.10 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

SB: 56.9 BB (VPIP: 62.96, PFR: 29.63, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 29)
BB: 100 BB (VPIP: 13.53, PFR: 6.47, 3Bet Preflop: 2.99, Hands: 174)
UTG: 96 BB (VPIP: 16.36, PFR: 10.91, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 60)
MP: 91 BB (VPIP: 19.66, PFR: 17.04, 3Bet Preflop: 7.11, Hands: 554)
Hero (CO): 252 BB
BTN: 112.9 BB (VPIP: 27.17, PFR: 22.83, 3Bet Preflop: 6.67, Hands: 94)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has Q:heart: Q:spade:

UTG raises to 3 BB, fold, Hero raises to 9 BB, fold, fold, fold, UTG raises to 24 BB, fold

UTG wins 19.5 BB
 
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HoldOnTheRail

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I dont think you can avoid it here. He's the guy calling +13BB with 88. So its all good.
And I prefer folding Queens too. He looks pretty tight over 60 hands :) I dont know if a guy could do it with JJ. Maybe AK AQ could be an option but its not worth becouse AA KK is a hand here. If you call with QQ you definately arent going to give up the pot easily . And if you shove pre his AK or AQ is folded. But the hands calling you is AA KK.
Also I thought about how much you've been 3betting him or overall.
 
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Hand 1. I don't know if you should get away from this, but it's not impossible either. Even from the button, a 22/18 player's opening range is likely to be much more than 35%, and he's likely to fold a fair portion of that range to your 3bet. So he has some kind of hand.

Then, he calls your sizable flop bet. His stats suggest he's at least somewhat less likely than looser players would be to call here with a draw. So what's he likely to have that you're beating? To have top pair, he'd have to have called your 3bet with a T in his hand. Possible, but how likely? JJ and QQ are possible too, but he might have 4bet them, especially QQ, or he might have raised your flop bet.

So, when you look not just at what his range is but also at how likely each holding within that range is, 88 and TT may be the holdings that best fit his line.

Hand 2. It's seldom if ever easy to fold QQ pre- vs one opponent. That said, when calling means hoping the opponent will only show up with AK, it's probably as good a spot as any.
 
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it is really close in hand 2 and im basically putting him on AA or KK so the question is can we set mine at like 1.8:1 odds with stacks the way they are and stack him a ton and that is up to you, if no then folding is ok

i don't think i fold a lot in game just one of those shitty spots where we don't have enough of a sample but the evidence is beginning to ( with his hud stats) say we may be able to it is close

any reads or timing would help
 
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