$10 NLHE 6-max: Cooler or Avoidable x2

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Hand 1 Dont think the FLush helped on the River

poker stars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (6 handed) - Poker Stars Converter

Button ($10)
SB ($13.48)
Hero (BB) ($18.54)
UTG ($20.27)
MP ($8.42)
CO ($10)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 6
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, 6
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UTG raises $0.30, 4 folds, Hero calls $0.20

Flop: ($0.65) 5
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, A
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, A
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(2 players)
Hero checks, UTG checks

Turn: ($0.65) 6
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(2 players)
Hero bets $0.62, UTG calls $0.62

River: ($1.89) K
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(2 players)
Hero bets $1.80, UTG raises $5, Hero calls $3.20

Total pot: $11.89

Results below:
Hero had 6
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, 6
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(full house, sixes over Aces).
UTG had K
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, K
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(full house, Kings over Aces).
Outcome: UTG won $11.35

Hand 2 Thought alot more Ax in range?

Poker Stars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (6 handed)

Button ($17.44)
SB ($12.86)
BB ($14.81)
UTG ($8.69)
MP ($5.41)
Hero (CO) ($21.12)

Preflop: Hero is CO with A
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, K
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2 folds, Hero raises $0.30, 1 fold, SB raises $1.15, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.90

Flop: ($2.50) 7
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, 4
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, 5
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(2 players)
SB bets $1.31, Hero calls $1.31

Turn: ($5.12) A
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(2 players)
SB bets $3, Hero raises $18.61 (All-In), SB calls $7.35 (All-In)

River: ($25.82) 3
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(2 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: $25.82

Results below:
SB had A
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, A
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(three of a kind, Aces).
Hero had A
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, K
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(one pair, Aces).
Outcome: SB won $24.66
 
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#1: Nice hand guy.
#2: Poor play. Why shove on the turn?
 
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Hand one is a cooler. Id have called to beat trip aces but fearing AK for the FH. KK a little unexpected but explains the flop check.

Hand 2. You were going to lose a lot here however you played it. Why no 4bet? we need to be 4betting here regularly to balance our 4bet bluffs against the blinds. Unless he has never 3bet in like 300 hands im stacking off pre.
Once you connect on the turn its curtains. As he 3bet then Ax forms a massive part of his range. The shove folds out a lot of his weaker Ax that might call something smaller. Remember a polarized 3bet range could easily have 2 pair here with A small so the shove looks wrong for that reason as well .
UL to run into AA.
 
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Hero is a cooler where you say, ty for not losing more. I mean if he raises 10 are you folding? Hand 2, w/o some really good reason, then just fold the flop. That was an avoidable situation.
 
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HAnd 3 - maybe i learned from Hand 1, although back of my mind would he ever do that with a Flush as i put a weak blocker bet on the River??

Poker Stars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (6 handed) -

Button ($11.54)
SB ($13.58)
BB ($17.97)
UTG ($13.19)
MP ($11.40)
Hero (CO) ($21.29)

Preflop: Hero is CO with A
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, 8
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2 folds, Hero raises $0.30, Button calls $0.30, 2 folds

Flop: ($0.75) K
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, 10
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, J
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(2 players)
Hero bets $0.50, Button calls $0.50

Turn: ($1.75) J
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(2 players)
Hero bets $1, Button calls $1

River: ($3.75) 5
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(2 players)
Hero bets $1.40, Button raises $4.60, Hero folds

Total pot: $6.55
 
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Hand 2, w/o some really good reason, then just fold the flop. That was an avoidable situation.
So in a 3bet pot on raggy flop thought it was ok to call 1/2 pot with AK as they could have alot worse 2 overs
 
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I play a pretty typical TAG image, so personally I'm betting Hand 1's flop. If he did have an ace, he does not have a flush draw so he will probably raise you to get you off your possible flush draw. It's very possible he has a better pair than you and may fold to any bet. In my opinion a leadout in that situation is going to save you money / make you money depending on how you look at it. If he raises you it's an easy fold. If he flat calls you can check the turn and give it up if you feel that he has an A. Of course, once the 6 comes on the turn there's nothing you can do about it and will most likely end up all in.

Again, being a TAG I'm probably folding to the flop bet in Hand 2. That of course depends on how villain has been playing and how you have been playing, but with a reraise from the SB I'm thinking he could be on any medium to large pair, and that flop bet looks like a set to me.
 
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***** Hand History for Game 1111111111 ***** (Poker Stars)
$10.00 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Wednesday, February 11, 04:12:39 ET 2015
Table Klinkenberg 6 (real money)
Seat 1 is the button
Seat 1: Hero ( $10.45 USD ) - VPIP: 26, PFR: 19, 3B: 8, AF: 1.8, Hands: 67245
Seat 2: Player2 ( $14.25 USD ) - VPIP: 46, PFR: 8, 3B: 0, AF: 1.0, Hands: 13
Seat 3: Player3 ( $12.30 USD ) - VPIP: 0, PFR: 0, 3B: 0, AF: 0.0, Hands: 3
Seat 4: Player4 ( $9.51 USD ) - VPIP: 38, PFR: 25, 3B: 0, AF: 0.0, Hands: 8
Seat 5: Player5 ( $10.15 USD ) - VPIP: 31, PFR: 19, 3B: 9, AF: 1.3, Hands: 26
Seat 6: Player6 ( $10.92 USD ) - VPIP: 20, PFR: 15, 3B: 7, AF: 3.5, Hands: 61
Player2 posts small blind [$0.05 USD].
Player3 posts big blind [$0.10 USD].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Hero [ 7c 7h ]
Player4 folds
Player5 raises [$0.30 USD]
Player6 calls [$0.30 USD]
Hero calls [$0.30 USD]
Player2 folds
Player3 folds
** Dealing Flop ** [ 9d, 8s, 7d ]
Player5 bets [$0.50 USD]
Player6 raises [$1.60 USD]
Hero calls [$1.60 USD]
Player5 calls [$1.10 USD]
** Dealing Turn ** [ 6s ]
Player5 checks
Player6 checks
Hero checks
** Dealing River ** [ 6c ]
Player5 checks
Player6 checks
Hero bets [$2.80 USD]
Player5 folds
Player6 raises [$9.02 USD]
Hero calls [$5.75 USD]
Player6 wins $0.47 USD
Player6 shows [8c, 8h ]
Hero shows [7c, 7h ]
Player6 wins $21.92 USD from main pot
 
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HAnd 3 - maybe i learned from Hand 1, although back of my mind would he ever do that with a Flush as i put a weak blocker bet on the River??

Poker Stars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (6 handed) -

Button ($11.54)
SB ($13.58)
BB ($17.97)
UTG ($13.19)
MP ($11.40)
Hero (CO) ($21.29)

Preflop: Hero is CO with A
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, 8
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2 folds, Hero raises $0.30, Button calls $0.30, 2 folds

Flop: ($0.75) K
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, 10
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, J
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(2 players)
Hero bets $0.50, Button calls $0.50

Turn: ($1.75) J
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(2 players)
Hero bets $1, Button calls $1

River: ($3.75) 5
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(2 players)
Hero bets $1.40, Button raises $4.60, Hero folds

Total pot: $6.55

Check call the river
 
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Player6 shows [8c, 8h ]
Hero shows [7c, 7h ]
Player6 wins $21.92 USD from main pot

Set over set, this would have to be a very disciplined fold, I would have called as well.
I think we have to get into the mindset of asking a few things in these situations
1. How aggressive is this opponent...if he is passive then we have to consider folding. Passive stats accrue because the player rarely raises so when he does its nearly always a very strong hand. Conversely aggressive stats come from players who raise too much so their raises can be respected less. I know this is egg sucking for you but I often make a snap decision and don't take time to check.
2. Is he good enough to bluff in this spot?
3. Is he raising mistakenly thinking he has the best hand; this is really true for fish who are only looking at their two cards and not at what you might have.

The flush hand falls into the same category although I would have called this one as well as there are a lot of possible straights, trip jacks and top2 pair combos that justify calling the pot odds. I think we are better more than we think here. There are no blockers to a Q so he could have QJ maybe even Q9 which he thinks is good
 
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1) It is somewhat close, but I think calling is slightly correct.

2) Fold the flop. I know you may feel entitled to win, because it is AK, but it is actually really weak in that spot.

3) Wise fold. Played the hand well too. I disagree with tom about checking the river. There are more holdings that will call a bet there than bet when checked to. You can't worry about getting re-raised, because so few people do this as a bluff here.

4) Feel like this is a call.
 
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***** Hand History for Game 1111111111 ***** (Poker Stars)
$10.00 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Wednesday, February 11, 04:12:39 ET 2015
Table Klinkenberg 6 (Real Money)
Seat 1 is the button
Seat 1: Hero ( $10.45 USD ) - VPIP: 26, PFR: 19, 3B: 8, AF: 1.8, Hands: 67245
Seat 2: Player2 ( $14.25 USD ) - VPIP: 46, PFR: 8, 3B: 0, AF: 1.0, Hands: 13
Seat 3: Player3 ( $12.30 USD ) - VPIP: 0, PFR: 0, 3B: 0, AF: 0.0, Hands: 3
Seat 4: Player4 ( $9.51 USD ) - VPIP: 38, PFR: 25, 3B: 0, AF: 0.0, Hands: 8
Seat 5: Player5 ( $10.15 USD ) - VPIP: 31, PFR: 19, 3B: 9, AF: 1.3, Hands: 26
Seat 6: Player6 ( $10.92 USD ) - VPIP: 20, PFR: 15, 3B: 7, AF: 3.5, Hands: 61
Player2 posts small blind [$0.05 USD].
Player3 posts big blind [$0.10 USD].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Hero [ 7c 7h ]
Player4 folds
Player5 raises [$0.30 USD]
Player6 calls [$0.30 USD]
Hero calls [$0.30 USD]
Player2 folds
Player3 folds
** Dealing Flop ** [ 9d, 8s, 7d ]
Player5 bets [$0.50 USD]
Player6 raises [$1.60 USD]
Hero calls [$1.60 USD]
Player5 calls [$1.10 USD]
** Dealing Turn ** [ 6s ]
Player5 checks
Player6 checks
Hero checks
** Dealing River ** [ 6c ]
Player5 checks
Player6 checks
Hero bets [$2.80 USD]
Player5 folds
Player6 raises [$9.02 USD]
Hero calls [$5.75 USD]
Player6 wins $0.47 USD
Player6 shows [8c, 8h ]
Hero shows [7c, 7h ]
Player6 wins $21.92 USD from main pot

Raise the flop.
 
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first hand is cooler.

second hand is probably fold otf , even though i always wondered what flops people play if they miss.
 
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Hand1 - Cooler.
Hand2 - Certainly beat there.
 
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hand 1: good play, but fold to the re-raise on the river as it would never be a bluff. (flush would call, Ax would call)

hand 2: I would also flatcall with AK. but don't float the flop. fold.
 
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first hand is just unfortunate that the KK didn't make a bet and you could maybe just get away from the hand there. other than that not much you could do when the 6 comes on the turn. i think AK hand is unfortunate as well but with deeper stacks and more info on the player i could fold.
 
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