$10 NLHE 6-max: Chasing a nut flush draw

A great example of an extremely poorly played hand!

Villain is a nit with stats of 9/6.

How do I determine if I should call the flop bet? It would be calling $.30 to win a $.70 pot, but there are implied odds here as well, right?

But even if calling the flop is the right play, calling the turn certainly can't be.

But I did. And then when I missed the flush and a K came, I tried to bet out in case the villain had been playing a Q and I could push him off with the scare card. When he 3bets, I finally wake up and get out of the hand.

How do I learn from this hand and prevent myself from making the same mistakes next time?

Merge - $0.10 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

CO: $6.00
BTN: $3.00
SB: $9.90
Hero (BB): $11.55
UTG: $9.86
MP: $10.63

SB posts SB $0.05, Hero posts BB $0.10, CO posts DB $0.10

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.25) Hero has A♣ 2♦

fold, fold, CO checks, BTN calls $0.10, SB calls $0.05, Hero checks

Flop: ($0.40, 4 players) 3♣ Q♣ 6♣
SB checks, Hero checks, CO bets $0.30, fold, fold, Hero calls $0.30

Turn: ($1.00, 2 players) 7♦
Hero checks, CO bets $0.75, Hero calls $0.75

River: ($2.50, 2 players) K♥
Hero bets $1.87, CO raises to $3.74, fold

Your implied odds aren't great because calling this flop makes it look like you have a big club.

Turn is close and probably arguably a puke fold. The value of your hand here with 3 clubs on board and 1 in hand is significantly less than if there are 2 on the flop and 2 in your hand.

bluffing river is probably bad. Nit is not firing 2 on this texture with anything that he'll fold on river. He probably flopped a flush over 90% of the time.

rather then calling flop I would raise and most likely just fold if he raises. or you could simply fold. this is a common mistake people make at 10nl, playing loose passive.

a good argue for raising flop is that he most likely folds unless he has a flopped flush, he might even fold a set to a double barrel.

and just for the record, this doesn't have to do anything with the hand, on the river he doesn't 3bet you, you put in the first bet with the donk lead, he second bets you, if you reraise that's a 3bet.

i would just lead the flop. Its limped pre and comes down monotone. you have fold equity and a nut draw so take the lead.

The guy has a set here every time so i woulnt be bluffing.

Also show # of hands when you post villain stats

You can never go wrong check jamming the flop with the nut flush draw, as played im probably folding turn, definitely check folding river.

Lolwut @ everyone except baudib....
Granted I'm on my phone, so I either didn't see stats or they weren't posted. Having said that;

Don't call the flop. You aren't getting paid when 4th club peels soooo much of the time, ESP when you're OOP, so this Is a fold OTF unless you know he's a super aggro fish who will look at a 2 of clubs in his hand and think "flush! I have to call all in!"
Don't check raise or donk bet, it's a limped pot in which a villain who limped is showing interest- you aren't getting him off much at all. Also, if he's relatively tight Yet still limped pre in LP like this, it's a set mine 99% of the time.
Also, if you insist on calling the flop, Plz Plz Plz don't c/c the turn too as the implied odds simply aren't even close to being there if you make the nuts OTR

We act before him and he only hits this flop with 33 and 66 so why is leading bad if he will fold the majority of the time.

danprince10 said:

You can never go wrong check jamming the flop with the nut flush draw,.

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wat.

dooydoo said:

We act before him and he only hits this flop with 33 and 66 so why is leading bad if he will fold the majority of the time.

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Well it's fine if you get a fold, but if he calls or raises them GG you're in a dumb spot

I'd donk too, we have a decent bit of fold equity are going to win the pot outright a non zero percentage of the time and obviously some pretty decent equity to back us up, in a limped pot where noone has shown interest.

jchoop said:

Well it's fine if you get a fold, but if he calls or raises them GG you're in a dumb spot

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If we're putting him on 22-TT then he has 6 combo's we're scared of (and we're not really scared cause we have 36% equity vs them) and 42 combo's that will fold outright to a bet... Cant see facing any dumb spots when we donk here really, and i'm pretty happy winning the pot outright a good chunk of the time, just seems hard for this line to not be +EV given how easily people give up in limped pots... and on mono boards

I would lead this 100%.

im just saying if he raises or calls then what

If he raises flop, I would fold. If he calls, I would probs give up on turn unimproved or maybe barrel depending, but tbh, when a nit is calling/raising on a board like that, we most likely have little to no FE on the turn + the implied odds problem Baud talked about i.e. we aint getting paid if we hit.

Betting out here mostly folds out their combined equity, and works a good enough amount of the time to be +EV on its own. Of course with this particular holding we have the backup of drawing to the nuts if the nit simply calls. I don't see a problem here.

dooydoo said:

Also show # of hands when you post villain stats

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I had 137 hands on him

Cafeman31 said:

If he raises flop, I would fold. If he calls, I would probs give up on turn unimproved or maybe barrel depending, but tbh, when a nit is calling/raising on a board like that, we most likely have little to no FE on the turn + the implied odds problem Baud talked about i.e. we aint getting paid if we hit.

Betting out here mostly folds out their combined equity, and works a good enough amount of the time to be +EV on its own. Of course with this particular holding we have the backup of drawing to the nuts if the nit simply calls. I don't see a problem here.

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Ye I agree with this, guess the multitabler in me likes check fold lol

Cafeman31 said:

If he raises flop, I would fold. If he calls, I would probs give up on turn unimproved or maybe barrel depending, but tbh, when a nit is calling/raising on a board like that, we most likely have little to no FE on the turn + the implied odds problem Baud talked about i.e. we aint getting paid if we hit.

Betting out here mostly folds out their combined equity, and works a good enough amount of the time to be +EV on its own. Of course with this particular holding we have the backup of drawing to the nuts if the nit simply calls. I don't see a problem here.

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Good job. Exactly what my thinking process is.