$10 NLHE 6-max: C/R OTT by aggressive villain, options??

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Villian Stats (VPIP/PFR/AF): 30/27/2

poker stars $0.08/$0.16 No Limit Hold'em - 5 players - View hand 1646041
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BB: $20.36
UTG: $17.46
Hero (CO): $25.88
BTN: $7.55
SB: $16.00

Pre Flop: ($0.24) Hero is CO with T :spade: 9 :diamond:
1 fold, Hero raises to $0.64, 2 folds, BB calls $0.48

Flop: ($1.36) 2 :spade: 9 :spade: 2 :heart: (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $0.80, BB calls $0.80

Turn: ($2.96) 8 :diamond: (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $1.60, BB raises to $3.70

So this guy looks quite aggressive over the 140 hands I have, although he has been folding a lot in the blinds 78% (9), hence the open with T9o

I think the flops pretty standard, the turn doesnt change much imo so i barrel and he c/r's, now I think that he is aggro enough to be doing this with air, or at least a semi-bluff, we can't get it in profitably imo, but I think we still have value if we call and see what he does otr right, i mean we might get to check behind a lot if he is FOS, IMO call>fold>jam.

Thoughts??
 
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He's repping 22/99/88, 88 mostly. It's a tiny range but his range from the blinds also appears very small. He appears aggressive and the flop is great for a bluff, the turn is a strange place to do so though unless he's turning 66 into a bluff or is loose enough to call AQ/AJ OOP. FCB stat. CR stats. Raise c-bet% would be nice even if a little unconverged.

I call and evaluate the river. We have the odds and he appears aggressive enough the board dry enough and his range thin enough. I hate the sort of answer I just gave but there are so many combinations of cards or bet sizes.

The river will be a tough spot, his small flatting range, his call on the flop and the wackiness of the line if this is a bluff are arguments to fold.
The tiny range he reps, his aggressive preflop stats and the fact people seem to go wild on paired boards argue a call.

Mostly we're calling the turn in the hope for a check back which most bluff will do here imo. To bluff with a small raise most the time it's as villain lacks the balls to make a proper raise or has the nuts. I expect most bluffs to midget bet or check the river.

Would really like to see villains postflop stats and the river card if you called.
 
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I call and evaluate the river. We have the odds and he appears aggressive enough the board dry enough and his range thin enough.

Mostly we're calling the turn in the hope for a check back which most bluff will do here imo.

Exactly why I called the turn, glad you agree! I think we can check it back if he is bluffing and easily fold if he has us beat

Would really like to see villains postflop stats and the river card if you called.

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River: ($10.36) K :diamond: (2 players)
BB bets $8.50

This is obv a fold now, but what if he doesnt bet here, can we then rep something and turn our hand into a bluff, or is it better to just check it back, like do we have enough SD value if checked to here or is it better to try and take it down with a bet??
 
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fold the turn, he's not creative enough to try to get away with repping such a narrow range.
 
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What are you trying to get value from when you bet the turn? You've said he generally fold to steals, yet he called. Then he called your cbet. So when you bet the turn what range do you think he's calling with that you beat? I check turn and I don't think there is any value at all in calling the turn ch/r because you're basically hoping he's just going to give up on any river card and that's almost never going to be the case.
 
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As played, call river.

I also check the turn.
 
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What are you trying to get value from when you bet the turn? You've said he generally fold to steals, yet he called. Then he called your cbet. So when you bet the turn what range do you think he's calling with that you beat?

+1 didn't notice this.
 
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Can't see FCB or raise c-bet stats there.
I fold river. I do think a min raise tends to be the nuts or a bluffer without balls. So I expect little bets and checks from the bluffs and big bets from the nuts.

Making a min raise then firing out a very large bet is a very strong line.
I still like the call, we're putting $2 into an $8 pot. We should see a lame bluff that gives up on the river or bets tiny enough to justify the call. (20%) He's repping such a small range, paired boards make people spazz out he and has aggressive preflop stats we can't pass up such odds imo even if we're not seeing a showdown most the time.
 
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What are you trying to get value from when you bet the turn? You've said he generally fold to steals, yet he called. Then he called your cbet. So when you bet the turn what range do you think he's calling with that you beat? I check turn and I don't think there is any value at all in calling the turn ch/r because you're basically hoping he's just going to give up on any river card and that's almost never going to be the case.

FDs, over cards etc. I wanted to check the turn at first too but I can see the merit in betting and his bet size is enticing enough for those hands to come along.
 
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FDs, over cards etc. I wanted to check the turn at first too but I can see the merit in betting and his bet size is enticing enough for those hands to come along.
FDs are likely to raise the flop and overs generally are not calling. There just aren't enough worse hands in his range that are going to call the turn to justify the bet imo.
 
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FDs, over cards etc. I wanted to check the turn at first too but I can see the merit in betting and his bet size is enticing enough for those hands to come along.

Even if FDs flat if villains flatting range is tight there's going to be what 3 to 5 combos of FD? AsQs/KsQs/AsJs/KsJs/AsTs. These will all have 15outs and 2 to 1 equity whilst TT/JJ/22/88/99 hold 14 combos and have us crushed.
 
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i like to x back the turn here and let him bluff the river with his missed draws and floats. When we bet we dont get value from as much as we would like. Also if we bet the turn we risk getting raised and folding out all his air, where if we xb the turn he is the type who can bluff a lot of rivers. I think we can get more value over all by xing back and calling good rivers.

I think the turn is an easy fold as well as played.
 
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In general this is a pretty easy fold. People at the micros don't c/r turns with air, draws or mediocre hands very often. We can't even beat a TPTK type hand. I just fold without thinking too much about it. I don't always bet the turn here though either.
 
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What are you trying to get value from when you bet the turn?

I guess, like fd's 66, 77. I dont think i bet here if I played this after I watched the first ep of a video series yesterday.

This is a big leak of mine I think and i've been really trying hard to fix that today, like every street I'm actually asking myself in my head, what can I get value from, if i'm not vbetting the do I have FE/PE to bluff. In this case the answers to both questions would be no lol

Thanks for all the answers dudes
 
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