$10 NLHE 6-max: AQs in 3bet blind battle

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http://www.boomplayer.com/en/poker-hands/Boom/17559612_E8CBCA8DEA

What do you think of my call pre flop first of all?
I was going to 3bet the original opener but when SB 3bets i'm not sure what to do? I could 4bet but what does this achieve? He's going to fold all of his bluffs and shove all of his value hands, plus I have position in a potentially multiway pot with a hand that dominates most of this SB 3betting range. But then again, we leave it open for the BTN to come over the top. So not sure on pre flop.

Secondly, should I be shoving turn? His bet sizes look pretty weak so I figure he's going to have a lot of AK, AJ, 10J, maybe QK, Q10 but are any of those hands going to call a shove? I think I'm only getting called by the hands that are beating me like JQ,JJ,QQ,KK,AA, however unlikely they may be. But I do protect from any bad cards falling OTR like a J,10 or K. But then again I can help feeling like I missed out on value, if I just call and the river is a blank then he might go ahead and bet river with his AK as a bluff and his QK, Q10 for thin value. What do you guys think? :)
 
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I'm not sure if it is right but I have been cold 4 betting in these spots with a hand like this. (as a bluff)

Some will fold AK here(atleast on the site I play on) and many will be folding 22-1010.

It is also not bad to make him fold out his bluffs considering we only have A high and all of his bluffs have decent equity against us(plus he has initiative). We also push the button out.

I also don't mind folding here against the right villain. We are going to miss the flop a lot and not have any initiative and pot will be bloated so bluffing post will be very hard.

Flatting is pretty meh though but like I said, I'm not sure but I can probably assume it is very villain dependent.

AP, turn is good. You can flat but I doubt he is firing with bluffs on river so it is probably better to get the money in now while he can still have a hand like K10s
 
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Yeah, maybe I agree - It's kinda 50-50. I think flatting might be better if we were deeper and at-least one player (preferably 3bettor) was deeper too, just so there is more room for manoeuvre post flop and villain will be making bigger errors.
Although this got me thinking. I would almost never be expected to have a very strong range here - Almost always medium strength hands like JJ,10-10 AQ etc. Which makes it very easy for villain to play against me post flop. Maybe I should mix in AA-KK atleast sometimes, as a SB 3bet vs BTN is often very wide and so if we 4bet hands with blockers like A3-A5s maybe QKs and AK aswell as sometimes AA-QQ and we sometimes flat AA-KK along with our medium strength hands 10-10,JJ AQ etc then it makes us difficult to get a read on and more likely to get paid off. I'm generally not a fan of slow playing, particularly in the blinds as players will put the chips in with a slightly wider range but I'm thinking mainly on regular tables (not zoom) where I generally might come across as a bit of a LAG to other players. Maybe this shouldn't even be necessary at 10NL and maybe I'm levelling myself. What do you think?
 
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Im not so sure on your preflop play.

Infront of you, there were raise and reraise and we might be sandwiched if we enter. Glad didnt happen.

Postflop, good play for me.
 
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I agree with flatting AA and KK in these spots sometimes since SB will be weak so often and cold 4 bets will get folds so often. So I tend to flat AA and KK and 4 bet hands like AQ. I am flatting AA/KK with intentions to raise flop and hope they are unable to fold an overpair, good draw, or TPGK.
 
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Alright we beat a buttons range and callers.

Squeeeeze and then fire!!! probably turn shove isnt good ur only getting called when beat
 
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Pre is fine. BTN might come along with speculative hands, and we have a hand that can make some nutted combos and that is ahead of a SB's 3-betting range. OTT you pretty much have to jam, even though it feels like we're just folding out all his bluffs and letting him continue with everything that beats us. Since he's pretty committed, he might spew and call off with AK/QK/Q10 anyway. He will only have less than 1/2 PSB left OTR, and we're probably not folding anyway. And it doesn't seem like with less than 1/2 PSB he's going to bluff the river.

Fwiw I'm 4-betting or folding AQo in this spot.
 
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