$10 NLHE 6-max: AQo, CO raise, BTN 3B

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Just wondering how you all play vs this type of reg here? Just give it up? Flat and give up if missed? 4 bet here? Flat and look to c/r?

I know its hard to say in a general way, but is this spot vs this type of player where I want to flat and look to c/r a good flop?


UTG: $12.61 - VPIP: 12, PFR: 8, 3B: 4, AF: 2.3, hands: 200
MP: $4.47 - VPIP: 45, PFR: 0, 3B: 0, AF: 2.8, Hands: 29
Hero (CO): $10.87 - VPIP: 19, PFR: 13, 3B: 4, AF: 2.2, Hands: 327896
BTN: $12.57 - VPIP: 21, PFR: 14, 3B: 6, AF: 2.3, Hands: 446
SB: $10.00 - VPIP: 13, PFR: 8, 3B: 0, AF: 1.0, Hands: 71
BB: $10.81 - VPIP: 21, PFR: 17, 3B: 6, AF: 1.9, Hands: 333

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is CO with A :diamond: Q :heart:
2 folds, Hero raises to $0.30, BTN raises to $0.90, 2 folds, Hero ?
Hero bets $1.00, BTN raises to $3.25, Hero

Meh, shitty spot imo. I fold because i think AQ is the most devil hand in poker and he has position on you.

His aggression factor isn't too high, but his 3-bet is abnormally high.

Still fold given situation.

is this thread missing a flop or is it just me?

Campbell92 said:

is this thread missing a flop or is it just me?

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yes, missing a flop lolz.

fold pre is what i meant above btw^^

Campbell92 said:

is this thread missing a flop or is it just me?

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that last line was not supposed to be there, and I cant edit.anymore..

I was more wondering how people play this hand pre, and how they plan it on later streets, vs a reg with his type of stats...

I obv. flatted and donked the flop and was raised..., might as well look for it and put it in....

OK found it. BUT, I was more wondering in a general way how people look at this pre...

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UTG: $12.61 - VPIP: 12, PFR: 8, 3B: 4, AF: 2.3, Hands: 200
MP: $4.47 - VPIP: 45, PFR: 0, 3B: 0, AF: 2.8, Hands: 29
Hero (CO): $10.87 - VPIP: 19, PFR: 13, 3B: 4, AF: 2.2, Hands: 328465
BTN: $12.57 - VPIP: 21, PFR: 14, 3B: 6, AF: 2.3, Hands: 446
SB: $10.00 - VPIP: 13, PFR: 8, 3B: 0, AF: 1.0, Hands: 71
BB: $10.81 - VPIP: 21, PFR: 17, 3B: 6, AF: 1.9, Hands: 333

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is CO with A :diamond: Q :heart:
2 folds, Hero raises to $0.30, BTN raises to $0.90, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.60

Flop: ($1.95) 9 :heart: 2 :heart: 7 :diamond: (2 players)
Hero bets $1.00, BTN raises to $3.25, Hero I guess has to fold....?

i stand by not flatting 3bets OOP, 4bet or fold.

When you flat OOP you just get too many flops you cant continue on, also when you donk in 3bet pots, noone gives you any respect and will almost always raise you, because you're just not repping anything. (so this could be a good case for donking in 3bet pots when we do have something, just we should rarely be calling 3bets OOP imo)

acky100 said:

i stand by not flatting 3bets OOP, 4bet or fold.

When you flat OOP you just get too many flops you cant continue on, also when you donk in 3bet pots, noone gives you any respect and will almost always raise you, because you're just not repping anything. (so this could be a good case for donking in 3bet pots when we do have something, just we should rarely be calling 3bets OOP imo)

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I actually watched a vid on 3 betting earlier which stated pretty much exactly the same thing.

Lesson learned.

Vs this guy I dont know, he 3 bets enough that I could 4 bet, but if he flats, I dont like that, then I have to b/f OTF or c/f and I fold to anymore aggression pre, so I guess just fold here?

Yeah, check his fold to 4bet in this spot, work out if 4betting is profitable so you can mix it up between 4betting and folding imo, If he does call then we can probably just ch/f unless we catch a bit knowing we made a +EV move when we 4bet to begin with.

If he 3bets you say to $9 after you put $3 in, and you 4bet to $24 he needs to fold 60% to 4bets for you to show profit doing this with ATC, when you consider that you hold two really good blockers also But yeah check their fold to 4bet stats, many of these aggro guys will be 60% +, and if you 4bet smaller then it obviously has to work less, so play around with that and perhaps 4bet to the equivelent of 22bb's if the villain is unlikely to call IP (works well against polarised 3bettors as they arent gonna call K4s IP to a 4bet, whereas someone 3betting a merged range might) So yeah, good hands to 4bet as a bluff are ones with blockers that you cant call with, Ax suited, KJ, KQ, AT etc etc.

acky100 said:

i stand by not flatting 3bets OOP, 4bet or fold.

When you flat OOP you just get too many flops you cant continue on, also when you donk in 3bet pots, noone gives you any respect and will almost always raise you, because you're just not repping anything. (so this could be a good case for donking in 3bet pots when we do have something, just we should rarely be calling 3bets OOP imo)

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yup

acky100 said:

i stand by not flatting 3bets OOP, 4bet or fold.

When you flat OOP you just get too many flops you cant continue on, also when you donk in 3bet pots, noone gives you any respect and will almost always raise you, because you're just not repping anything. (so this could be a good case for donking in 3bet pots when we do have something, just we should rarely be calling 3bets OOP imo)

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Ditto. I'm folding unless his 3bet% from the button is above 9% and his F3B is high. I'd normally have lower requirements as AQ has great blocking power for a 4bet bluff but villains stats are fairly fishy so I fear our 4bet may get flatted sometimes.

I would fold pre and not even worry about it since it is miles away best decision.

4 bet if his 3 betting you tons and getting out of line.

As I told you before, fletchy, there are plenty of fish at 10nl that you can fold some decent hands against regs and wait for spots vs the fish, or obvious good hands vs the regs, try and stay away with marginal hands vs regs, especially in 3bet pots and oop, and you will do fine.

Am i reading wrong? or his 3b 6% at 6m thats pretty standard imo

just fold pre