$10 NLHE 6-max: AKs OP

$10 NL HE 6-max: AKs OP

poker stars $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
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CO: $17.95
BTN: $12.30
Hero (SB): $10.00
BB: $8.15
UTG: $10.60
MP: $14.15
Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is SB with K:heart: A:heart:
3 folds, BTN raises to $0.30, Hero raises to $1, 1 fold, BTN calls $0.70
Flop: ($2.10) 7:club: Q:diamond: 2:diamond: (2 players)
Hero...


Villain is 15/10/75 over 20 hands, have watched him float flop c-bet with a mid-pair on an uncoordinated board w/ one over when he was IP.

This is more of a general question b/c I suck OP w/ AK and never know when/when not to c-bet, or how to deal w/ a raise, etc...

I hate to Cbet in a reraised pot when I miss the flop. I mean if you bet the pot here and get a call then what do you do on the turn, c/f after dropping another 2$? A Q something is in his range, AQ, KQ, or a lot of pocket pairs that may not fold here. I dont see a lot of value here you really wanted one of two things to happen: 1. him to fold preflop, or 2. you connect with the board and bet. Neither of these happened. I c/f the flop and Cbet in a non-3bet pot with the same board.

Likminutz said:

Poker Stars $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com
CO: $17.95
BTN: $12.30
Hero (SB): $10.00
BB: $8.15
UTG: $10.60
MP: $14.15
Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is SB with K♥ A♥
3 folds, BTN raises to $0.30, Hero raises to $1, 1 fold, BTN calls $0.70
Flop: ($2.10) 7♣ Q♦ 2♦ (2 players)
Hero...


Villain is 15/10/75 over 20 hands, have watched him float flop c-bet with a mid-pair on an uncoordinated board w/ one over when he was IP.

This is more of a general question b/c I suck OP w/ AK and never know when/when not to c-bet, or how to deal w/ a raise, etc...

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Looking at your notes, I recommend either firing 2 barrels or none. Taking a stab at this flop will not have enough fold equity in itself to make it profitable if he is floating alot.

How often you should be double barreling AK will depend on how often you 3 bet, how often you cbet, what sort of hands he defends 3 bets with IP ,how good he is at adapting to your play and how willing he is to go AI light after your continued aggression.

As it stands, I would probably c/f. If the 7c was the 7h I would probably cbet since there are alot of cards we can continue to barrel and and feel happy about it.

i would only check-call on this on the flop.
if i am goin' to bet i would only bet 1/3 of the pot... if he calls.
i'll fire another half of pot to see where i am. this way he may either think
you are luring him for a small bet on the flop or bluffing. he may either fold
or call here to check his standing as well. now, firing half of the pot will
make him think twice of "calling if he has a mid pair or draw", "raising if has a top pair and kicker", "or folding if he thinks you are trapping him".

if he reraises... you can fold without losing much money. or won the pot right there on the turn.

I would fire two here liki and see how he reacts to doubling.

I would barrel two streets no matter the turn just purely for information because if the turn is say a 6 and he has 88/99 and river is another brick. He probably isnt going to bet when checked to on the river unless he is a total aggro monkey because its just too thin value facing a double barrell if you look at it from his point of view.

We've no idea what his range is. Play it safe just fire your standard c-bet then check/fold. Without solid stats/reads on this guy we don't want to be getting fancy and start double barrelling 3bet pots based on the fact we saw him make a standard call with a mid pocketpair a few hands before.

i think the best thing to do here is a generic feeler bet...maybe just under the pot to see where you are at...if you are reraised you get out, if called you have some bigger decisions to make...if you are playing a 10 dollar table im assuming you have alot more behind you, as you shouldnt be at a table that you cant afford to lose it all....

cheers and gl
wooter

No one likes CRAI the flop? How many hands does he call a 3-bet with here that can really bet/call this flop? KQ/AQ/QQ/77? We also don't mind free cards if he gives them to us...

c9h13no3 said:

No one likes CRAI the flop? How many hands does he call a 3-bet with here that can really bet/call this flop? KQ/AQ/QQ/77? We also don't mind free cards if he gives them to us...

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I think thats a good line^ C/R it and give it up if he plays back. If he calls and you don't hit an ace or king on turn then check/fold. And presumably we bet on the turn if he checks behind on the flop.

kadafi said:

I think thats a good line^ C/R it and give it up if he plays back. If he calls and you don't hit an ace or king on turn then check/fold.

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Check Raise All In

There's not enough money behind to check/raise and fold to a shove.

c9h13no3 said:

No one likes CRAI the flop? How many hands does he call a 3-bet with here that can really bet/call this flop? KQ/AQ/QQ/77? We also don't mind free cards if he gives them to us...

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If he has a tight call 3bet range KQ AQ QQ represent most of his range.
If he has a loose call 3bet range it's great.

As we don't know I think this line sucks until we do.
Everyone seems to be terrified of 99 or 88 being in his range so were all resorting to double barrels or checkraise all ins despite that it being alot more likely he has KQ or AQ and if he does have 88-99 and calls our c-bet we have around 25% equity.

Deco said:

if he does have 88-99 and calls our c-bet we have around 25% equity.

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Well if we know he's peeling those hands, then what the hell do we fold? AJ? We beat that anyways. C-betting this board when he doesn't fold small pairs is pointless and we should just check/fold or CRAI or fire two. Firing one just seems kinda silly.

And FWIW, I think check/folding is fine. Its never a big mistake to check & fold when you have nothing.

i think c/f or c/r are probably the best lines... c/c really gives you no option at another turn bet unimproved.. an even if you hit.. like said, AQ and KQ are in his range and then you'd be drawing really thin...

c9h13no3 said:

Well if we know he's peeling those hands, then what the hell do we fold? AJ? We beat that anyways. C-betting this board when he doesn't fold small pairs is pointless and we should just check/fold or CRAI or fire two. Firing one just seems kinda silly.

And FWIW, I think check/folding is fine. Its never a big mistake to check & fold when you have nothing.

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If his range is tight a c-bet is obviously horrible.
We don't know what his range is though so I c-bet anyway, its a small risk.
I to think check folding is fine I just think double barrelling and checkraising is horrid because if he does have a tight range he's gunna completely bum rape us. We can't just check raise unknowns in 3bet pots as standard especially at these stakes.

We don't have a read telling us he's gunna call with small pairs really and the type of players who do are going to have 45s Axs and JT in their range and suddenly are c-bet is looking good again.

He's a 15/10 over 20 hands. While its not statistically significant, I don't think 45s is in his 3-bet calling range. Then again, it is 10NL.