$10 NLHE 6-max: AKo vs 4bet

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So few hands on this guy, IDK if stats are gonna be a big help. FWIW, he has not opened a hand UTG yet. All of his 3bets except for one have come from the blinds.

I could have included results here, cause I folded super fast. Best case a chop, then flipping, mostly I am WB. This is how my thinking about his range went. AA-QQ; AKs, very weighted to AA-KK. I dont put very many bluffs, PP <QQ in his range at all.

Am I a nit? Anyone gonna shove here?

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€10.00 EUR NL Texas Hold'em - Friday, February 08, 05:36:40 ET 2013
Table Hajek IV (real money)
Seat 5 is the button
Seat 1: Player1 ( €9.98 EUR ) - VPIP: 13, PFR: 4, 3B: 0, AF: 1,5, Hands: 24
Seat 2: Player2 ( €5.41 EUR ) - VPIP: 60, PFR: 0, 3B: 0, AF: 1,3, Hands: 10
Seat 3: Player3 ( €10.12 EUR ) - VPIP: 21, PFR: 15, 3B: 11, AF: 1,0, Hands: 47
Seat 4: Hero ( €20.64 EUR ) - VPIP: 21, PFR: 16, 3B: 7, AF: 2,2, Hands: 4789
Seat 5: Player5 ( €10.68 EUR ) - VPIP: 30, PFR: 28, 3B: 18, AF: 4,0, Hands: 69
Player1 posts small blind [€0.05 EUR].
Player2 posts big blind [€0.10 EUR].



Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is CO with A :heart: K :diamond:
UTG raises to $0.30, Hero raises to $0.90, 3 folds, UTG raises to $2.10, Hero?
 
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hard to say if 3bet 5betting AK with 24 hands could ever be as bad as you think but if you really think the guy is likely to be a real nit and you don't want to 3b/5b, just flat pre (it's totally fine to flat AK pre).
 
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hard to say if 3bet 5betting AK with 24 hands could ever be as bad as you think but if you really think the guy is likely to be a real nit and you don't want to 3b/5b, just flat pre (it's totally fine to flat AK pre).

Player 3 is UTG so it's 47 hands not 24 (I had to read it twice to see it though).
 
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Player 3 is UTG so it's 47 hands not 24 (I had to read it twice to see it though).


Yea, I have a problem with HEM2 copying hands. The format is all screwy. Was cool in HEM1... dont know why it is different. I have posted in the HEM forum...
 
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Well 3bet 5betting AK is fine then, this is not where you are losing money
 
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You can't really weight his hand more toward AA/KK than QQ considering you hold 1 of each. Get it in.
 
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As played get it in.
Without history this guys going to 4bet light here I think there is more value flatting.
 
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Omitting deepstacked spots, the only time I'm 3betting AK without the intention of stacking vs a 4bet is if I have like thousands of hands on a guy to show he opens wide, calls wide vs a 3bet, but only 4bets a range that crushes AK.

Which is just about never.
 
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Unless we know he doesnt fold to 3 bets much I think flatting is more profitable.

3 bet gii is fine though.
 
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I wouldn't have 3bet, would have called and see a flop in pos, so much easier to play.
 
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btw I never 3bet without a plan. When I 3bet I always know what I am going to do in each possible situation and that's how you should 3bet, 4bet and 5bet. Always know what you are going to do when the other player reacts one way or another.

If this was me, by the time action got to me and I saw AKs I would have already decided if I stack preflop if possible or if I wouldn't.

Now let's assume I decided it is a good spot to stack preflop (even tho it really isn't since I can play it better in position) but he only calls my 3bet oop and we get to the flop. By this time I know how I am going to play it postflop in position. My plan in general would be this: at least 1 cbet, if I hit tptk I at least double barrel, if dry board and/or I sense weakness I might even tripple barrel in position. If he donks in me I will folds most times. If I hit tptk and I get checked raise on turn I will fold most of the time.

Now, there are plenty of things that can happen postflop, but what I am trying to say is: don't 3bet, 4bet and 5bet without a plan. Be a step ahead of your own action and know how you are going to react in each possible scenario or you will always encounter the same problem and you won't be able to progress if you don't even know yourself and your game plan.
 
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I would fold, Flipping vs a lower pocket pair and I doubt he 4 bets lower cards than A/K from UTG. Also if we just flat and he has an underpair and the flop comes a King or Ace he can probably fold easily but if we pair the king/ace and he has kings/aces then we get stacked. Also easier fish to go after than flipping and dealing with variance here.
 
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