$10 NLHE 6-max: AKo in SB vs. 6/4 nit

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Guy is 6/4 over 76 hands. Call pre, raise fold, raise call?

pokerstars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (5 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

BB ($11.09)
UTG ($5.81)
MP ($13.10)
Button ($11.83)
Hero (SB) ($24.89)

Preflop: Hero is SB with A
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, K
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UTG calls $0.10, 1 fold, Button bets $0.50, Hero raises to $1.20, 2 folds, Button calls $0.70
 
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Sort of situation I really don't like. Oppo is ridic tight but I still don't fold this. I wouldn't mind calling and check-raising if you flop an ace or king, letting go if you don't against someone this tight. We can probably widen his range abit though due to him being on the button but still we're in pretty shit spot if 4 bet on. Think I'd prefer call then check/raise the right flop.
 
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there's more money in the pot from the limper + OOP. it's 5-handed and he's OTB and we're in the blinds so I don't see how else to play this other than like we have the stone cold nuts.
 
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Even though we have a good hand, I can't see how stacking here would be good. I'm a nit tho
 
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there's more money in the pot from the limper + OOP. it's 5-handed and he's OTB and we're in the blinds so I don't see how else to play this other than like we have the stone cold nuts.

Call or fold but stacking AK here is pure spew.

If we give the 6/4 a wideish range (any PP, AT+ KQs) then what does raising acomplish?

Limpre folds down to a range of high PP and High Ax (which we dont want)

Nit folds down to High PP and maybe AQ+ (again which we dont want)

The handful of bb you gain from folding ot hands like 99 and TT are more than ofset by the massive losses you incur when you get AK in against a range of Ak and KK+

IN actual fact I think the nit has a tighter range than stated here but it sort of proves the point that if we give him a wider range than needed and its -EV then tightening his range only serevs toi make stacking AK here even more -EV
 
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What type of player is the UTG limper? I'd probably just flat here if UTG is bad (very likey) or fold if he's tight.
 
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Only had 31 hands but he was 41/19.
 
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Then just call.

Limper can have loads of AX in his range.

Even though you are OOP its pretty profitable to play this in a fit or fold manner.

Or to put it another way, if we miss and we check, we dont expect BTN to cbet air very often (he is usually going to be value betting PPs)

He may even check through with AJ, we dont expect him to have many hands like A6 or A9 in his range that we are ahead of so when he bets the flop we can happily fold.

The value is from getting money off the liumper with his Ax hands or occasionally coolering BTN when he has AK, AQ or KQ and we hit.
 
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Flatting pre is probably the right play. It allows the limper to come along without bloating the pot and you don't want to face a 4bet from the btn since he is so tight. Besides alot of the hands you dominate are going to fold to a 3bet. The limper could be in there with alot of weak Aces and also be willing to stack off if you do flop an A. I think keeping the pot small and playing the hand like you have AQ is probably the best course of action. What you guys think? No need to over play the AK here right?
 
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3bet more preflop. I never 3bet less than 3x the original raise as a rule with normal stack sizes. And OOP I make it even more. If he jams over it's a pretty gross spot 5 handed with AK. He is pretty tight. And there might be a case for just calling preflop as well especially since getting 4bet here sucks so bad. Also, keeping the fish in as mentioned above is another good argument for flatting.
 
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^agreed, either 3bet larger, or flat (depending on reads etc, (how many hands for the BTN you have?). BTN obviously gets to have the widest range, but 6/4 IP (if a good sample size) i tend to give them more credit.

But I'm also giving them 88+; and KJs+. Adjusting on the flop is gonna be the most critical. will you post the flop for us?
 
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