$10 NLHE 6-max: Aggression in 3 bet pot

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poker stars, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 5 Players
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SB: $12.43 (124.3 bb)
BB: $14.16 (141.6 bb) 26/22 15% 3bet over 80 hands
MP: $10.50 (105 bb)
CO: $4.49 (44.9 bb)
Hero (BTN): $22.52 (225.2 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with K
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Q
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2 folds, Hero raises to $0.30, SB folds, BB raises to $0.95, Hero calls $0.65

Flop: ($1.95) A
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6
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4
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(2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $1.15, BB calls $1.15

Turn: ($4.25) 4
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BB checks, Hero bets $2.65, BB calls $2.65

River: ($9.55) T
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BB checks, Hero

BB seemed to be aggressive preflop, not really enough hands to make an assumption of how he plays postflop. I find a lot of villains at 10NL with high 3 bet stats will often give up completely if they miss the flop. Once he checked the flop I make my move and rep the ace. When he calls the flop I put him on A2-A5dd or something like AT-AJ without the diamonds trying to get to showdown cheaply.

Not sure if I should be betting the turn, at the time I was thinking well if i had AJ-AQ I would bet to charge his draws and get value from the worse Aces in his range.

The river doesn't change a lot, only AT gets there. He has played this so passively post flop all I can put him on are hands trying to get to showdown cheaply. Is there any merit to firing a third bullet and what size do you make it if so? I think the main problem is that all we rep by this point is AQ maybe AK and that would usually check back on the river.
 
PokerNinja91

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I don't think there is any merit to betting river. In fact I don't think I'm betting turn either. He could easily have AA here which is slow playing given that he knows he can't get any value by leading out. Although I would expect him to just go ahead and bet the river for value against your Ax hands. Maybe, just maybe he is getting sticky with KK QQ but we block that so it's unlikely. Is he going to fold any ace here? Unlikely imo given the way the hand has played out plus the river is pretty much a blank and you would be checking your entire range here other than full houses.
However, why did you choose to call the QKo preflop anyway? You're going to be dominated by his AK, AQ, AA, KK, QQ which makes up a decent portion of his range. If you think villain is getting out of line and 3betting a wide range from the blinds then you could 4bet with blockers. I might call here with KQs because I don't want to get 5bet off my hand, but for me KQo just goes into the muck, unless of course this is a regular table (not zoom) and we know for sure that villain is a maniac.
 
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Calling prr is fine but I bet 70-80% pot on flop and if he calls im not betting again on this turn.

I really dislike your turn sizing, such a pointless bet because he isnt folding anything he called on flop to that sizing. I dont like betting this turn in general but if you are going to barrel turn you should be betting more.

Id say villain shows up with a hand like A5s that he correctly thought would play brtter as a x/call to induce bluffs because it is hard to get called by worse on this flop.
 
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As a committed spewtard if you're going to bet the river (not saying I would recommend it) it has to be big enough to fold the weak Ace. Here at least $8.50 although I'd want to be pretty sure he knows where the fold button is 1st.
 
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Oh this is so gross. When he checks to you, he's essentially decided to bluff catch against you. And you are bluffing...
 
Kanat

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It's unsuccesfull bluff. You did all the work for him.
 
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On this type of board, I'd just give up with KQo. We have 0% equity when called, and we're getting called almost every single time here. So we're going to have to either end up double or triple barreling to win if we decide to bet here, which is pretty spewy.

If he had air, he'd probably bluff at the ace. His range here is weak/decent aces, AA, very occasionally 66/44 because of his high 3 bet% and since it's blind vs button, KK/QQ/sometimes JJ that aren't folding to a flop bet.

I really don't like the flop barrel, and the turn barrel is worse because you're blocking KK/QQ which would fold to the turn barrel. We don't even have a BDFD; we're basically drawing dead to runner-runner against almost his entire hand range here when he check-calls the flop.

When he check-calls the turn and checks the river, he never has a monster here. A diamond would kill his action if he had AA/A4s/66/44, and I don't expect people to check-call two streets with a monster with the intention to check-jam river when you're already double barreling at a pretty dry A-high board. His range here is super capped to pure bluff-catchers. I don't expect people to play AK this way often, especially with the FD out there. AQ/AJ are the top of his range here almost every time.

As played, I think it's alright to jam. Or give up if you don't want to embrace the variance. It's pretty close, and I'm sure jamming is not that +EV. I'd probably jam. Don't go like 80-90% pot. Putting in 85% of his remaining stack in OTR and not jamming looks bluffy. Also jamming doesn't give him as good as a price to call, and looks more believable. I find that people who don't commit OTR and instead do something bet like 90% of my stack in as a bet are bluffs. His stats are kind of reggish, and to think that he's folding a little more than 50% to a river jam is not too unrealistic. Our range for 3-barreling here is pretty strong. The only thing he's beating is random spew. It's very unlikely someone would 3-barrel a busted FD or even double barrel a FD in a 3-bet pot after the 3-bettor check-calls on a dry A-high board.

With KQo against a 15% 3-bettor and button v blind, I'm 4-bet bluffing. With his high 3-bet stat he's going to fold a ton of his range, especially since we block a lot of value hands. I'd rather flat hands that dominate his bluff range like AQo/QQ/JJ/1010, and some hands that play well post-flop like KQs/AQs/AJs, etc.
 
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