$10 NLHE 6-max: AA are we ever folding flop?

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PokerStars - $0.10 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

CO: $10.46 (VPIP: 50.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, hands: 3)
BTN: $8.00 (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 2)
SB: $10.00 (VPIP: 20.00, PFR: 15.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 41)
Hero (BB): $10.25
UTG: $10.10 (VPIP: 23.59, PFR: 19.49, 3Bet Preflop: 6.99, Hands: 407)
MP: $10.25 (VPIP: 23.03, PFR: 19.09, 3Bet Preflop: 6.86, Hands: 858)

SB posts SB $0.05, Hero posts BB $0.10

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.15) Hero has A:heart: A:club:

fold, MP raises to $0.30, CO calls $0.30, fold, fold, Hero raises to $1.25, fold, CO calls $0.95

Flop: ($2.85, 2 players) J:club: 7:club: K:diamond:
Hero bets $2.44, CO raises to $9.21 and is all-in, Hero calls $6.56 and is all-in
 
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Your flop sizing is terrible. Half pot to 2/3 pot in a 3 bet pot is far better.

As played, im not folding.
 
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Especially with Ac we can bet smaller. Readless I'm just getting this in.
 
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I'm not folding here, your definitely not going to be good 100% of the time though.
 
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In such situation I will never fold AA, In my opinion this plus action in game.
 
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Villain range possibly JJ,QQ,AKs,yeah I'm not folding either.
 
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I would definitely split those and double down on both.
 
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Actually, this is kind of at the edge for me. At the current price I think I would have to call though. If the cost was a bit higher I might consider laying down here. We are holding a blocking Ace which takes out a few FD hands. I think KQs AKo are possible hands we could be up against. However I think we are going to run into KJ, JJ, 77 here a decent number of times. KK is possible, but you would expect KK to play back at you preflop. Without any reads on the villain, I think it's probably a call, but I wouldn't feel great about it.
 
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I assume you bet big on the flop because you were looking to get it in.

I guess if you take out AK from opponents range, and only included nutted hands you could fold. But I think that would be way too tight considering opponents stats. You have to call w/ that flop sizing, and really a shove / call here is only very slightly +EV, but it is still +EV.
 
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He could have some worse hands so I'm not folding either.
 
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$10 NLHE 6-max: AA are we ever folding flop?

Pre-flop: So, MP raises. There's no point going into detail on his range because he doesn't stick around in the hand. Suffice to say it's probably reasonably tight, seeing as he's a TAG and you have a strong read.
What does the CO call his raise with then? Seeing as it's a pretty strong raise and a cardinal rule of poker is that you have to be stronger to call a bet than to make it, probably pretty tight. I'll give him 88-JJ, AQo, AJs-AQs, KJs, QJs and 65s.
Obviously we want to squeeze here. I think we should go a little bigger, maybe $1.40-$1.50. So, what does he call with? Against a fairly small squeeze, he can certainly call with his entire range profitably here.


Flop: I've reviewed a couple of your hands, and one leak I've found is you seem to be abnormally large in 3-bet lots on flops you like. Bet much smaller than this, you're rarely getting called by worse here, because it's so obvious what you have. I'd bet about $1.60-$1.70 here.
When he ships, it looks like a call, but let's check his range. The only hands I have in his range are AQ of clubs, JJ and KJ. You could add in AK I suppose. If you do, I think you've priced yourself in with the flop bet for sure. If it was more we could fold. I do expect to be behind around 50% of the time though.

Very begrudging call.

EDIT: Worth saying I really don't mind a fold either. It's a very borderline decision.
 
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I assume you bet big on the flop because you were looking to get it in.

I guess if you take out AK from opponents range, and only included nutted hands you could fold. But I think that would be way too tight considering opponents stats. You have to call w/ that flop sizing, and really a shove / call here is only very slightly +EV, but it is still +EV.


John, I think you're looking at the wrong player. We only have 3 hands on villain here.
 
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You're right, I though it was MP. In that case the call is a little easier here. Only 3 hands, but 50/0 and cold calling a 3-bet, probably a fish. Range gets wider, EV becomes much more +.
 
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i raised more because of how connected the board was

figured he could get sticky with draws esp making a calling mistake on flop and calling my jam on turn.

i usually 60% cbet on 3bet pots .... but perhaps i do raise too high and its a leak so ill make sure i dont overdo..

thanks for feedback guys
 
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