$10 NLHE 6-max: AA slowplayed pre

PokerStars - $0.10 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 4 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BB: $10.00
UTG: $8.87
Hero (BTN): $10.63
SB: $15.71

SB posts SB $0.05, BB posts BB $0.10

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.15) Hero has A:heart: A:diamond:

UTG raises to $0.30, Hero raises to $0.90, fold, fold, UTG raises to $2.00, Hero calls $1.10

Flop: ($4.15, 2 players) 4:heart: K:club: 4:diamond:
UTG checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($4.15, 2 players) 9:diamond:
UTG bets $2.00, Hero calls $2.00

River: ($8.15, 2 players) 3:heart:
UTG checks, Hero bets $6.10, UTG calls $4.87 and is all-in

Very few hands on villain

Meh probs a bit fancy but i do sometimes do it, think i prefer shipping pre tbh, we stack KK and AK and QQ 100% and maybe JJ/TT depending on your history.

As played, when would you ever not bet this K44 flop? With KK or AA i guess. bet $1 with your whole range imo to a thinking player it seems you always have it when you check here, or thats how im interpreting it. Betting small puts his whole range in a tough spot here, imagine having AQo here in villains shoes

some times, but he's under stacked, raised UTG and 4bet, just ship it pre me thinks.

dude, stats everytime you post a hand, it helps

Sorry I posted this while I was multi tabling. Well in the short time I have played 6 max 10nl, I've found people rarely get QQ or AK in pre, but are comfortable getting overpairs in on the flop.

His 4 betting range is like, AK and QQ+ (maybe JJ but rarely) although QQ will usually flat even oop. For me that flop is only good if he has AK but its more unlikely he has that because I have blockers. So if I bet QQ folds (10nl play very fit or fold) and KK has me crushed. Im aware that if he has KK he probably will stack me, but I want value from QQ maybe on a later street. Even if he has JJ the same principle obv applies.

When he bets the turn I flat for the same reasons as the flop. The river he has a small amount left so I put it in and maybe get calls from JJ-QQ and obv from AK and KK.

Is this reasonably reasonable reasoning?

He 4bets from UTG. Easiest ship preflop ever.

WVHillbilly said:

He 4bets from UTG. Easiest ship preflop ever.

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We're only 4 handed.

youregoodmate said:

We're only 4 handed.

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Which is why it makes for an easier ship pre, ldo..

WVHillbilly said:

He 4bets from UTG. Easiest ship preflop ever.

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Yah, boards like this kill your action from QQ and such. Get his $ in pre.

c9h13no3 said:

Yah, boards like this kill your action from QQ and such. Get his $ in pre.

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But we will rarely get flops like this. 10nl is so nitty, I think we get stacks more often from QQ by flatting and stacking most flops.

youregoodmate said:

But we will rarely get flops like this. 10nl is so nitty, I think we get stacks more often from QQ by flatting and stacking most flops.

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If by rarely, you mean ~35% of the time, then yes, QQ rarely has overcards on the flop.

c9h13no3 said:

If by rarely, you mean ~35% of the time, then yes, QQ rarely has overcards on the flop.

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I have 1/4 of the overcards

youregoodmate said:

I have 1/4 of the overcards

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Good point. 29% then. Point is if they 4-bet instead of calling your 3-bet, they're not folding much of their range when you jam. But a substantial portion of flops will make them fold.

Also he starts with less than 100bb so he can certainly call with JJ/TT too. Especially when you jam since he'll put you on AK ldo.

WVHillbilly said:

Also he starts with less than 100bb so he can certainly call with JJ/TT too. Especially when you jam since he'll put you on AK ldo.

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I am almost 100% confident he folds TT and almost never calls JJ. I doubt you guys play much 10nl but it is so unbelievably nitty when it comes to preflop all-ins. Bar the rare QQ vs AK its almost always AA vs KK. Im actually getting quite sick of how tight players are.

Also his 4 bet range may be slightly wider because I think on this table I had 10 or 12% 3 bet.

youregoodmate said:

I am almost 100% confident he folds TT and almost never calls JJ. I doubt you guys play much 10nl but it is so unbelievably nitty when it comes to preflop all-ins. Bar the rare QQ vs AK its almost always AA vs KK. Im actually getting quite sick of how tight players are.

Also his 4 bet range may be slightly wider because I think on this table I had 10 or 12% 3 bet.

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Both villain and yourself have leaks then, if hes not getting it in with 10s+, and your not jamming here..Your wrong in saying that your more likely to stack QQ post than pre.

get it in pre, you gave an estimated 4bet range, and none of it folds.

The Messiah said:

Both villain and yourself have leaks then, if hes not getting it in with 10s+, and your not jamming here..Your wrong in saying that your more likely to stack QQ post than pre.

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Right shall we remove the idea that I usually slowplay aces. Evidence for the second comment?

4 handed, ranges widen

its 4max so he should be stacking wider.. QQ fits into his stacking range and if he's 4bet folding QQ- then we should be 3bet/5betting a ****load more.

we have blockers to AK/AQ so most of the time its gonna be a worse pair, which gives him even more inclination to stack if his pair is strong enough to 4bet.

yeah its 10nl and its nitty, but he's not folding any of his range to your ship and if he is, I already wrote how to adjust above. ^^

youregoodmate said:

Also his 4 bet range may be slightly wider because I think on this table I had 10 or 12% 3 bet.

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Likelihood of someone who has < 100bb stack and 4bet smallish having a HUD?

TylerN said:

Likelihood of someone who has < 100bb stack and 4bet smallish having a HUD?

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That also means they are probably playing only one table and 4 handed will easily notice when someone is 3 betting them often.

youregoodmate said:

That also means they are probably playing only one table and 4 handed will easily notice when someone is 3 betting them often.

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Stop reaching for excuses. If you 5bet shove preflop he calls at least 90% of the time.

acky100 said:

As played, when would you ever not bet this K44 flop?

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+1.

His pf 4bet range is heavily weighted to AK,QQ+ so expect to extract value here majority of the time. Only KK there has you smashed. (6/26 hands ~ 25%) plus you're way ahead of anything else he might have (-44) and there's a decent chance he still calls a flop bet.

In fact, I'm wondering if a shove here isn't okay. Does it look bluffy enough to get called by say, TT the small % of the time he has that? Or JJ/QQ? Definitely AK, right?

Shove Preflop.
Once they raise to $2 and you call. They only have 1.5 pot bets left on the flop so they are pot commited even if the King hits the flop

I understand a shove pre is +++EV. But postflop I explained my actions in an earlier post.