re: Poker & $10 NLHE 6-max: AA monotone flop with nutflush draw
Originally Posted by Ubercroz
So the reason I'm getting for betting is that this is a 4bet pot and this guy may call a bet. What hands is he flatting a 4bet with? KK- probably not. AK... I guess but that's pretty unlikely too. QQ/JJ okay maybe but, probably JJ more than QQ. But people are more likely to shove than flat with those hands at the micros. Middle pairs and small pairs are pretty likely if he missed the flop then he's done with the hand if he hit then I'm on the draw no big deal I'm not a big dog even to a set. I think the most likely hands are middle/small pairs and suited overcards. Given that there are not a lot of flush combos and most of what he's has here is essentially dead on the flop with a few that are ahead I think betting will fold most hands and get tons of action from the hands that beat uswhich is a smaller number. Most of what is head will still pay on the turn and anything that's behind may bluff the turn if we check behind the flop. I'm not saying checking is the obvious correct thing to do I just think there are some merits to it. I'm not even saying checking is right against eryone but against a the SB flatting a 4bet who is clearly pretty weak given the preflop min 3bet there may be some value to it here. I do get what your saying and I did bet the flop which resulted in a fold which made me consider options outside of that considering the strength of my hand.
Betting most of the time is right maybe I'm just sad I couldn't get more out of him but it's always worth thinking about better ways to make money on a hand and the reasons why we do what we do.
I see people flat with QQ KK AA AK all the time, well probably less with AA but certainly KK QQ JJ AK
KK QQ JJ all fear AK
AK fears everything but cant fold being as the flop might have an A or K on it.
The only way I can explain people doing this is that they are newbies. THey dont think what hapens to the pot AFTER they call a 4-bet. So they call, the flop comes, they have cards (which they think are pretty decent) and then it strikes them that the pot is large and they just dont have all that much experience in 4bet pots (TBH I would really count this as a 3bet pot rather than 4-bet) because villians reraise was a min bet rather thna 3x bet.
In a 4-bet pot really the pot should be $5 on the flop with $5 remaining in stacks, so make sure your 4-bets are $2.50 rather than $2. This way you have 1 pot sized bet left so SPR theory takes over and you just shove, and he looks at that flop and thinks, "I have decent cards, its only a pot sized bet, what was the point of calling if I am going to fold to one bet? He could be bluffing.. damn it I call"