$10 NLHE 6-max: AA 3bet 3way

fletchdad

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Not sure what to make of this.

poker stars $10.00 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 1913829
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UTG: $21.08 - VPIP: 26, PFR: 20, 3B: 8, AF: 2.1, hands: 7282
MP: $10.67 - VPIP: 15, PFR: 11, 3B: 4, AF: 2.5, Hands: 2994
Hero (CO): $11.77 - VPIP: 19, PFR: 13, 3B: 4, AF: 2.2, Hands: 381352
BTN: $10.22 - VPIP: 24, PFR: 20, 3B: 7, AF: 2.3, Hands: 347
SB: $5.65 - VPIP: 24, PFR: 14, 3B: 4, AF: 3.0, Hands: 176
BB: $4.10 - VPIP: 26, PFR: 18, 3B: 14, AF: 1.5, Hands: 38

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is CO with A :diamond: A :heart:
1 fold, MP raises to $0.40, Hero raises to $1.10, BTN calls $1.10, 2 folds, MP calls $0.70

Flop: ($3.45) 3 :spade: 9 :club: 6 :diamond: (3 players)
MP checks, Hero bets $2.60, BTN calls $2.60, MP folds

Turn: ($8.65) 9 :heart: (2 players)
Hero ???
 
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def shove and crush his TT-QQ IMO

Ditto, you'll probably even see KK more than 9x. Super fistpump time.



I used to have a bit of a leak back in the day that when I went into autopilot mode when tired/bored/playing more tables than I could handle, I would cease to regard the preflop action when creating my postflop ranges. I think you've done this here, its a big leak to keep an eye on if so.
 
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ye this. BTNS range here is like AQs+, AK, TT-QQ (i guesss KK might show up sometimes but i srsly doubt it) OTF, and then like only overpairs OTT, all of which you obv crush. he will have 99 here a non zero% of the time, but its literally the only combo he can have that you dont crush so shoves goooood.

Just to elaborate on this a bit, if BTNs 3b% is 7%, (which ill agree it is cos sample is decent), then you can prob peg his range at about 1/3 to 1/2 of that (2.5-3.5%)

this has no mathematical sense. it just seems to be a playstyle thing that ive noticed- TAG players who look decent stat wise like that are generally multitabling relatively autopilot. they WILL 4b their AA and KK. their cold call vs 3b range as a general rule will be their value 3b range minus AA KK. generally the guys that 4b AK in this spot will 4b QQ too also
 
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fletchdad

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I almost c/f OTT and didnt. His call OTF made bells go off, and TBO I just couldnt let my AA go. I thought that that was where my leak was.

Poker Stars $10.00 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 1914708
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UTG: $21.08 - VPIP: 26, PFR: 20, 3B: 8, AF: 2.1, Hands: 7282
MP: $10.67 - VPIP: 15, PFR: 11, 3B: 4, AF: 2.5, Hands: 2994
Hero (CO): $11.77 - VPIP: 19, PFR: 13, 3B: 4, AF: 2.2, Hands: 382219
BTN: $10.22 - VPIP: 24, PFR: 20, 3B: 7, AF: 2.3, Hands: 347
SB: $5.65 - VPIP: 24, PFR: 14, 3B: 4, AF: 3.0, Hands: 176
BB: $4.10 - VPIP: 26, PFR: 18, 3B: 14, AF: 1.5, Hands: 38

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is CO with A :diamond: A :heart:
1 fold, MP raises to $0.40, Hero raises to $1.10, BTN calls $1.10, 2 folds, MP calls $0.70

Flop: ($3.45) 3 :spade: 9 :club: 6 :diamond: (3 players)
MP checks, Hero bets $2.60, BTN calls $2.60, MP folds

Turn: ($8.65) 9 :heart: (2 players)
Hero bets $8.07, BTN calls $6.52 all in

River: ($21.69) 7 :heart: (2 players - 1 is all in)

Final Pot: $21.69
Hero shows A :diamond: A :heart:
BTN shows 3 :club: 3 :diamond:
BTN wins $20.71
(Rake: $0.98)
 
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His call OTF should not make alarm bells go off whatsoever.
Hes calling with 10s+, which we all crush, were only beaten by sets, so just GIN on any turn/river.
Btw, I make my c-bet less than that, its an extremely dry flop for a 3 bet pot, for a flop like this, 50-55% of pot is good.

Nice hand.
 
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agree with what messiah said, although tbh this is the one time i like the overly large flop bet, since theres a massive chance that villain is on TT-QQ we need to get the money in asap before the scarecards peel.

read my previous posts about villains range fletch, and tell me if you agree. him having 33 there is like a onetime bink. you cant fold it
 
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I do not know. I know that i myself will get busto this hand even though the bells ring laud. I think this type of hands are the type you could get off at higher stakes against agood player but at micros i think it is not worth to pay much attention at coolers.
 
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I do not know. I know that i myself will get busto this hand even though the bells ring laud. I think this type of hands are the type you could get off at higher stakes against agood player but at micros i think it is not worth to pay much attention at coolers.

nobody is cold calling a 3b with 33 66 or 99 at medstakes+ with the same ESS. if anything, this is more of a fold against a worse player. vs a good player AA is always the nuts here
 
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Yeah it's pretty ridic him showing up with 33 there.
He didn't get good odds to setmine by calling your $1.10 3b, but still I would go for a bigger 3b, I never do less than 3x.
 
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Just want to give an example of pretty much the same scenario which I encountered today, notice that I dont slow down (lose value) even when the board pairs again on river.
In 3 bet pots, the board texture doesnt matter as much as it does when its a standard raise/call situation, and even more so in 4b pots(completely disregard the texture imo,well to an extinct). So next time, just keep barreling.


Poker Stars $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em - 5 players
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UTG: $26.44
CO: $74.35
BTN: $25.00
SB: $21.13
Hero (BB): $25.65

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is BB with A:heart: A:spade:
UTG raises to $0.75, 3 folds, Hero raises to $2.50, UTG calls $1.75

Flop: ($5.10) 7:club: 5:heart: 7:diamond: (2 players)
Hero bets $2.75, UTG calls $2.75

Turn: ($10.60) 4:club: (2 players)
Hero bets $6.25, UTG calls $6.25

River: ($23.10) 5:diamond: (2 players)
Hero bets $14.15 all in, UTG calls $14.15


Villain had 66
 
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^ also fletch, take note of messiahs betsizing on all streets here. this is how id like you to size your bets with overpairs.

literally the entire reason this hand gets called to showdown imo is that villain sees the half pot on the flop, and decides we have nothing. once hes made up his mind, our subsequent barrels just look to him like we are betting big to try and bluff down the pot. size like this from now on
 
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Thanks guys. Bet sizing point taken!!!
 
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off topic, today I had AA 2times
shoved the 3bets pre and lost all to qq and kq
damn AAs
bet sizing is my next thing to work on (tho Ive pissed off a few ppl with my unusual bets-think that helps sometimes;))
 
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