Originally Posted by bgomez89
Lol so you're just going to raise to just fold out AK? If the bulk of his range includes over pairs that he never folds then why try and bluff? Just draw, you'll probably still get paid off when you hit a club
I have 12 outs twice and a BDSD against JJ-KK which gives me ~45% equity. I have a blocker against AA, so it's less likely than JJ-KK...but even so I still have 9 outs and BDSD which is ~37% equity. Combined I have ~44% equity against all JJ+. Given my stack size & pot size it should be +EV to get all my chips in now if he never has AK in his range and calls a shove every time. Any FE is just gravy really.
There's also a third player I want to fold out. Le's say he's a donkey (he is) and flatted with something like A9/AT...he floats a cbet but will fold to a raise from me which buys me extra outs against the above Overpairs.
Mainly, I'm curious if people think there is a more +ev move than shoving. Is a raise here followed by shoving most turns going to produce significantly higher FE to balance against the equity I lose when that turn blanks?