$10 NLHE 6-max: 3b squeeze JJ on btn vs SS+1, both call, wet flop w/ 2 overs. GII or call/fold?

$10 NLHE 6-max: 3b squeeze JJ on btn vs SS+1, both call, wet flop w/ 2 overs. GII or call/fold?

No reads.

Maybe slightly too large 3bet but wanted to put SS all-in, got perplexed when last player called with 2 overcards on board. Are we "commited" with deaed money in the pot? Don't mind turning it into a bluff and trying to see turn/river vs SS only.

What is the correct play on flop?

Sizing preflop?

Table Information
Seat: 1 Hero ($12.62) Dealer
Seat: 2 Player 2 ($7.39) Small Blind
Seat: 3 Player 3 ($21.63) Big Blind
Seat: 4 Player 4 ($2.23)
Seat: 5 Player 5 ($13.05)
Seat: 6 Player 6 ($8.47)

Dealt to Hero


Preflop (Pot:0.15)
Player 4 RAISE $0.4
Player 5 FOLD
Player 6 CALL $0.4
Hero RAISE $2.5
Player 2 FOLD
Player 3 FOLD
Player 4 ALL-IN
Player 6 CALL $2.1

Flop(Pot: $7.38)

Player 6 CHECK
Hero ???

3 bet is fine, if you think it's too big you can make it a bit smaller (2-2.1) and short stack will shove over the top anyways. Have to check back flop, super super wet and even if you make Player 6 fold, short stack's range still has you crushed.

Henreiman said:

3 bet is fine, if you think it's too big you can make it a bit smaller (2-2.1) and short stack will shove over the top anyways. Have to check back flop, super super wet and even if you make Player 6 fold, short stack's range still has you crushed.

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Right, so check back flop & fold turn... I suppose he is stealing OTT with ATC in his PF calling range here despite the wetness, I know I likely would, so it feels annoying to give it up so easily especially with that SPR.

3-bet was a little large, I would probably make it around 1.2-1.7 (instead of 2 or 2.1 as told above, because you know the SS is about to shove and if player 6 reshoved you could have saved you another 0,50-1).
I guess player 6's range is like: 99-1010, A9s-AQo or KQ,KJ,K10s.
So IMO you are behind a lot or P6 is on a big draw.
Take the free card, it can't get a lot worse

*EDIT*
Let me explain why I put him on that range.
Player 6 has to call 2.1 for a pot of (0.15+0.4+0.4+2.5+1.83=5.28), so he gets around 2.5 to 1.
AA,AK,AQs would have 3-bet.

Preflop isn't great for reasons listed above.

Flop is too wet, only really pushes away AJ, TT, and smaller pocket pairs. Can't see a C-bet being useful here. If it gets checked to you on the turn, fire a barrel. If you get called, assume you're behind, and play the river accordingly.

cbet so u can get to fodl any queen if u get called sor u r beat.
your 3bet is too large 3times is enough u get same infos and u only get to fold weaker hands by betting large thats not the purpose u want to make money and keep weaker hands aroud and make them pay.

micromoi said:

cbet so u can get to fodl any queen if u get called sor u r beat.
your 3bet is too large 3times is enough u get same infos and u only get to fold weaker hands by betting large thats not the purpose u want to make money and keep weaker hands aroud and make them pay.

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Would you really c-bet on this board??!

I'd probably shove the flop.

Def smaller pre-flop. Not sure what the reasoning is with getting the SS all-in. Either they are going to shove or fold. As played, check flop. If it's checked on the turn, then bet 1/2 pot, otherwise fold to a bet.

baudib1 said:

I'd probably shove the flop.

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Why are we shoving the flop??? Villain's calling range is probably 99+, AJs+, KQs and that may even be too loose. We're crushed by that range, and I seriously doubt Villain fires next turn with AJ/1010 type hand as V2 is already all in.

I understand shoving the flop if V2 isn't already all-in as our range can be super strong, but V2 is ahead of us like 50% of the time anyways.

Because the pot is ginormous and villain is a clownface, and mostly shoving to get him to fold AQ/JJ, which is 13 combos and is a huge win, not to mention his AT/AJ hands, which have 20% against us and will leave us in a stupid spot if he hits a straight.

Also, we protect ourselves from him making some halfass bluff with Tx/9x/air on the turn.

Hands that beat us can be heavily discounted by villain flatting twice preflop and then checking the flop, and in a worst-case scenario, we have 25% vs. KQ.

only call Preflop

nuts30 said:

only call Preflop

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No I like the squeeze, with position preflop is fine apart from bet sizing which has all ready been mentioned. Do you really want to get into a multi way pot with jacks?