$10 NLHE 6-max: 2 pair vs fish, river decision

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$10.00 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
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BB: $6.64 - VPIP: 56, PFR: 28, 3B: 13, AF: 3.3, hands: 32
UTG: $17.14 - VPIP: 22, PFR: 9, 3B: 3, AF: 1.2, Hands: 55
MP: $11.38 - VPIP: 22, PFR: 5, 3B: 0, AF: 3.0, Hands: 55
Hero (CO): $29.85 - VPIP: 22, PFR: 18, 3B: 6, AF: 2.4
BTN: $18.04 - VPIP: 59, PFR: 20, 3B: 6, AF: 0.7, Hands: 41
SB: $9.83 - VPIP: 47, PFR: 41, 3B: 13, AF: 4.3, Hands: 34

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is CO with :9s4: :7s4:
2 folds, Hero raises to $0.30, BTN calls $0.30, 1 fold, BB calls $0.20

Flop: ($0.95) :9h4: :7c4: :kc4: (3 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $0.67, BTN calls $0.67, BB folds

Turn: ($2.29) :5h4: (2 players)
Hero bets $1.24, BTN calls $1.24

River: ($4.77) :2c4: (2 players)
Hero...

I feel like bet/folding the river is the best option here, but would like second opinions. I'd also like to know what bet size would be best since I seem to struggle with sizing. For example, looking back now I think I should have bet more on the turn. Feel free to add any other thoughts you may have. Thanks!
 
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Do not bet the river...

Check call/fold here
 
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I bet/fold all 3 streets. That board is actually fairly wet, so you can go ahead and bet a little on the larger side. Plus villain is a complete station. He'll let you know if he has two pair beat.

Failing to bet the river is burning money. This player is never folding a king.

Once in a while you'll see fish like this with low aggression factors actually have a largish river aggression. But it's just something to take note of after 50 or so hands, not what your standard assumption should be.
 
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I would bet again here something like 2.7 $ and fold to raise .I think is the best option here
 
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I think u bet 60% pot in river and fold if raise.

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First of all I woluld not open 97s if I'm out of possition against fish.
Agaisnt this player I would bet flop larger to something like $0,75 because I get vaule from Kings, Flush-Draws and he could also call with gut-shots - TJ, 56. Turn the same thing, 3/4 of Pot.
River I would check and let him bet his kings, missed gut-shots or bluffs.
 
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Do not bet the river...

Check call/fold here

I still think that best option is bet/folding. I feel like I miss too much value by not betting and having him check back his Kx / one pair type hands that would have called. I also get to set the price so I don't have to worry about him making a huge bet that I wouldn't be too thrilled about calling given how the board ran out.

I bet/fold all 3 streets. That board is actually fairly wet, so you can go ahead and bet a little on the larger side. Plus villain is a complete station. He'll let you know if he has two pair beat.

Failing to bet the river is burning money. This player is never folding a king.

Once in a while you'll see fish like this with low aggression factors actually have a largish river aggression. But it's just something to take note of after 50 or so hands, not what your standard assumption should be.

This is pretty much how I saw the hand. I just wasn't sure on whether I should go for a smaller or larger bet. That is something I'll try to keep in mind. I think he had a 50% River AFq but it was only a sample of 6. I'm not sure how much stock to put into that though.

I would bet again here something like 2.7 $ and fold to raise .I think is the best option here

I think u bet 60% pot in river and fold if raise.

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Thanks for the replies. It seems bet/folding is the general consensus so far.

First of all I woluld not open 97s if I'm out of possition against fish.
Agaisnt this player I would bet flop larger to something like $0,75 because I get vaule from Kings, Flush-Draws and he could also call with gut-shots - TJ, 56. Turn the same thing, 3/4 of Pot.
River I would check and let him bet his kings, missed gut-shots or bluffs.

I do agree that 97s isn't the greatest given table positions, but I feel pretty comfortable playing this postflop OOP versus a loose-passive player. It's probably at the bottom of my range, but I want to see as many flops as I can against these guys and I think 97s is usually easy enough to play postflop. Of course I run the risk of being squeezed by the laggy blinds, but I think it's fine as long as I'm aware of the possibility. I play at Bovada so table selection is hit or miss as to whether I'm on the left or right of bad players.

As for the river play see my reply to tomnovember for my reasoning as to why I don't like checking very much. I also don't think this villain is going to be bluffing very often given his passive stats. He may over value his one pair hands and bet, but I think it's more likely he just checks behind with those.


River: ($4.77) :2c4: (2 players)
Hero bets $2.38, BTN raises to $6.38, Hero folds

I opted for a half-pot river bet and villain raised. It sucks to fold, but I don't think he raises often enough with worse hands for me to call.
 
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